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fremstu getu a\u00f0 b\u00faa til list sem \u00e1 sem minnst undir annarri list.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deetta segjir sig a\u00f0 m\u00f6rgu leyti sj\u00e1lft og kemur kannski engum \u00e1 \u00f3vart. Um lei\u00f0 og ma\u00f0ur blandar saman lo\u00f0num hugt\u00f6kum \u00e1 bor\u00f0 vi\u00f0 fram\u00farstefna (avant-garde), tilrauna (experimental), n\u00fa-hyggja (m\u00f3dernismi) e\u00f0a s\u00ed\u00f0-n\u00fahyggja (p\u00f3st-m\u00f3dernismi) ver\u00f0ur \u00feetta fl\u00f3knara. Sumir sj\u00e1 samasemmerki milli margra \u00feessara hugtaka og sumir sj\u00e1 kannski samasemmerki milli hugtaksins listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi og \u00e1\u00f0ur talinna erlendra fyrirb\u00e6ra. \u00dea\u00f0 geri \u00e9g ekki.<\/p>\n<p>Um \u00e1\u00f0urnefnd erlend hugt\u00f6k g\u00e6ti \u00e9g skrifa\u00f0 langa ritger\u00f0 um, muninn \u00e1 uppruna og notkun gegnum t\u00ed\u00f0ina, hva\u00f0a merkingu \u00feau hafa \u00ed mismunandi listformum og \u00e1 mismunandi t\u00edmum en nema einhver hafi s\u00e9rstaklega a\u00f0ra sko\u00f0un \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed finnst m\u00e9r ekki \u00e1st\u00e6\u00f0a til \u00feess a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a \u00fea\u00f0 frekar.<\/p>\n<p>En fyrir m\u00e9r er listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi \u00fea\u00f0 \u00feegar einhver \u00e1kve\u00f0ur a\u00f0 b\u00faa sem til mest af sinni list. \u00cd t\u00f3nlist getur \u00fea\u00f0 \u00fe\u00fdtt algj\u00f6rlega sj\u00e1lfskapa\u00f0 t\u00f3nm\u00e1l, hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri e\u00f0a hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ranotkun, hlj\u00f3\u00f0, forrit, n\u00f3tnaskrift, hrynkerfi, stillingakerfi, svi\u00f0suppsetningu, hlutverk \u00ed r\u00fdmi, lengd og e\u00f0li og jafnvel sj\u00e1lfskapa\u00f0a framsetningu. Allt \u00feetta nefni \u00e9g sem d\u00e6mi, f\u00fds\u00edsk og auglj\u00f3s d\u00e6mi um eitthva\u00f0 sem t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld g\u00e6ti \u00feurft a\u00f0 gera til a\u00f0 fara alla lei\u00f0 me\u00f0 hugmyndir og vera eins skapandi og vi\u00f0komandi m\u00f6gulega getur. \u00deess vegna er listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi ekki au\u00f0veldlega stimpill sem a\u00f0rir setja \u00e1 mann heldur hl\u00fdtur \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 vera eitthva\u00f0 sem hver \u00e1 vi\u00f0 sig. Listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi hl\u00fdtur \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vera pers\u00f3nulegt markmi\u00f0 en ekki sta\u00f0la\u00f0ur \u00e1fangi sem einhver n\u00e6r. Markmi\u00f0i\u00f0 hl\u00fdtur \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vera \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 ver\u00f0a s\u00edfellt listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengari, \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 hl\u00fdtur a\u00f0 \u00feurfa a\u00f0 gerast \u00ed skrefum og er ekki unni\u00f0 \u00e1 einum degi.<\/p>\n<p>Einnig hl\u00fdtur \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 vera a\u00f0 s\u00e1 sem er virkilega listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengur g\u00e6ti einangrast mj\u00f6g miki\u00f0. \u00dea\u00f0 er \u00f3umfl\u00fdjanlegt. \u00dear me\u00f0 finnst m\u00e9r tilgangur me\u00f0 samt\u00f6kum sem sl\u00e1tri a\u00f0 b\u00faa til samf\u00e9lag og samkomulag milli \u00e1kve\u00f0inna eylanda sem geta hj\u00e1lpa\u00f0 hvert \u00f6\u00f0ru. \u00deannig g\u00e6tu eyl\u00f6ndin fari\u00f0 sm\u00e1tt og sm\u00e1tt a\u00f0 eiga eitthva\u00f0 undir hvor \u00f6\u00f0rum. \u00c9g tel a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 vel \u00fev\u00ed ef eyl\u00f6ndin hafa samskipti og vi\u00f0skipti s\u00edn \u00e1 milli og styrkja hvort anna\u00f0 \u00feannig n\u00e1 \u00feau a\u00f0 halda s\u00e9r sem sj\u00e1lfst\u00e6\u00f0ust fr\u00e1 hvers konar meginl\u00f6ndum. Samr\u00e6\u00f0an milli eylanda sem jafnvel getur fali\u00f0 \u00ed s\u00e9r deilur og \u00e1deilur, \u00ed bland vi\u00f0 uppbyggileika og hl\u00fdju, styrkir hvert eyland sj\u00e1lft sig og hin samb\u00e6rilegu eyl\u00f6nd um lei\u00f0.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c1 fyrirlestri m\u00ednum um listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi nota\u00f0i \u00e9g a\u00f0ra myndl\u00edkingu yfir svipa\u00f0an hlut \u00fear sem \u00e9g tala\u00f0i um st\u00f3ru og litlu tannhj\u00f3l t\u00f3nlistarsamf\u00e9laga. St\u00f3ra og litla tannhj\u00f3li\u00f0 sn\u00faa hvert \u00f6\u00f0ru, en til hli\u00f0ar eru m\u00f6rg p\u00ednul\u00edtil tannhj\u00f3l sem sn\u00faast sj\u00e1lfst\u00e6tt, sn\u00faa hvert \u00f6\u00f0ru og snerta hvergi hi\u00f0 st\u00f3ra og litla.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deetta eru \u00ed gr\u00f3fum dr\u00e1ttum m\u00ednar hugmyndir um listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi.<\/p>\n<p>Vir\u00f0ingarfyllst,<br \/>\nGu\u00f0mundur Steinn Gunnarsson<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/template\/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&amp;user=tervel-2900087%7EGu%C3%B0mundur+Steinn+Gunnarsson\">Gu\u00f0mundur Steinn Gunnarsson<\/a><\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Selected post\" src=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/images\/arrow.png\" alt=\"Selected post\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" \/> Jan 24, 2009; 3:05pm<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ 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Au\u00f0vita\u00f0 ver\u00f0a tannhj\u00f3lin aldrei fyllilega a\u00f0skilin. \u00c9g er a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 l\u00fdsa hugarfarslegu markmi\u00f0i, frekar en raunveruleika \u00ed efnisheimi. Eitthvert gulli\u00f0 markmi\u00f0. Ma\u00f0ur getur ekki a\u00f0skili\u00f0 sig fullkomlega fr\u00e1 \u00f6llu samf\u00e9lagslegu, en ma\u00f0ur getur komist n\u00e1l\u00e6gt \u00fev\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e9r finnst \u00e9g ekki vera a\u00f0 tala um a\u00f0 hafa bl\u00f6\u00f0kur vi\u00f0 gagnaugun eins og g\u00f6tuhestur og sj\u00e1 ekki til hli\u00f0anna. \u00dev\u00ed \u00feekking og skilningur \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed \u00feekkta og almenna gefur manni f\u00e6ri til a\u00f0 sl\u00edta sig fr\u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>En ef ma\u00f0ur hefur ekkert markmi\u00f0 er e\u00f0lilegt a\u00f0 m\u00e1lami\u00f0la allt a\u00f0 gefnum almennum st\u00f6\u00f0lum. Ma\u00f0ur fellur \u00f3me\u00f0vita\u00f0 inn \u00ed r\u00edkjandi sta\u00f0la ef ma\u00f0ur hefur \u00fea\u00f0 ekki a\u00f0 markmi\u00f0i a\u00f0 sl\u00edta sig fr\u00e1 \u00feeim.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deegar vi\u00f0 t\u00f6lum saman n\u00fana erum vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 ganga \u00fatfr\u00e1 m\u00f6rgum hlutum sem v\u00edsum og hlj\u00f3\u00f0t\u00e1kn \u00feessi sem \u00e9g birti tal mitt me\u00f0 hefur frekar afmarka\u00f0ar merkingar festar vi\u00f0 sig. Einnig h\u00f6fum vi\u00f0 miki\u00f0 af sameiginlegri menntun og \u00feekkingu \u00e1 listum og fleira sem er \u00e1kve\u00f0inn grundv\u00f6llur skilnings \u00ed \u00f6llum \u00feeim samskiptum sem h\u00e9r fara fram. \u00de\u00f3 t\u00f3nlist \u00f6\u00f0list aldrei eins sk\u00fdran sameiginlegan merkingarramma eru \u00fe\u00f3 \u00e1kve\u00f0in merki sem eru frekar st\u00f6\u00f0lu\u00f0, auk \u00feess sem utan\u00e1liggjandi t\u00e6knileg atri\u00f0i takmarka alltaf \u00fatkomuna ofan \u00ed \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 m\u00f3t ef ekki er s\u00e9rstaklega sporna\u00f0 vi\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Hugarfari\u00f0 sem ma\u00f0ur tileinkar s\u00e9r og sj\u00f3narmi\u00f0 gagnvart t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0um hefur alltaf mikil \u00e1hrif \u00e1 \u00fatkomuna, me\u00f0vitu\u00f0 og \u00f3me\u00f0vitu\u00f0. S\u00e1 sem vill vera n\u00fdtt tannhj\u00f3l gerir \u00f6\u00f0ruv\u00edsi t\u00f3nlist en s\u00e1 sem gerir \u00fea\u00f0 ekki jafnvel \u00fe\u00f3tt tannhj\u00f3li\u00f0 reynist ekkert vera svo n\u00fdtt fyrir \u00f6llum \u00f6\u00f0rum. \u00dev\u00ed hl\u00fdtur allt anna\u00f0 hugarfar a\u00f0 liggja a\u00f0 baki \u00feegar tilv\u00edsanir og hinn sameiginlegi \u00feekkingarbrunnur vestr\u00e6nna \u00e1heyrenda er nota\u00f0ur sk\u00fdrt og greinilega.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e9r fannst \u00e1bendingar \u00c1ka vera gott innlegg inn \u00ed umr\u00e6\u00f0una og bendir \u00e1 hn\u00f6krana sem felast \u00ed svona algj\u00f6rleika \u00ed hugarfari. \u00de\u00f3 held \u00e9g a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 greinilegt \u00e1 t\u00f3nlist sem ma\u00f0ur heyrir hvort f\u00f3lk hafi \u00feess h\u00e1ttar hugarfar e\u00f0a hvort hugarfari\u00f0 vir\u00f0ist vera a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 tala algilt tungum\u00e1l. En m\u00e9r finnst umr\u00e6\u00f0a sem \u00feessi gefa m\u00f6guleika \u00e1 a\u00f0 kanna hvort f\u00f3lk hafi raunverulega svipu\u00f0 vi\u00f0horf til listsk\u00f6punnar.<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/template\/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&amp;user=tervel-2711344%7E%C3%9Er%C3%A1inn+Hj%C3%A1lmarsson\">\u00der\u00e1inn Hj\u00e1lmarsson<\/a><\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Selected post\" src=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/images\/arrow.png\" alt=\"Selected post\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" \/> Jan 31, 2009; 6:49pm<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <![CDATA[\n\t\tNabble.get('d1233427747121-290').innerHTML= Nabble.formatDateLong(new Date(1233427747121));\n\/\/ ]]><\/script><\/p>\n<h2>Re: Um n\u00e1tt\u00faru listr\u00e6ns \u00e1gengis<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div><a rel=\"nofollow\" 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l\u00e6r\u00f0um gildum, skilgreiningum \u00e1 list, fegur\u00f0, sk\u00f6pun og g\u00e6\u00f0um. \u00a0Bar\u00e1ttan vi\u00f0 \u00feyngdarl\u00f6gm\u00e1li\u00f0; ef \u00fe\u00fa slekkur \u00e1 hinum listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengu \u00feyrlusp\u00f6\u00f0um muntu sj\u00e1lfkrafa hrapa ni\u00f0ur til hinnar hef\u00f0bundnu meinstr\u00edm jar\u00f0ar. \u00a0\u00c1n \u00feess a\u00f0 spyrna kemstu ekkert. \u00c1gengni krefst orku og einbeitingar.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deetta \u00e1 vi\u00f0 hinn almenna borgara eins og td. me\u00f0limi sl\u00e1turs. \u00a0Vi\u00f0 erum \u00ed grunninn ekki sni\u00f0ugir, vi\u00f0 b\u00faum ekki yfir snilld og frelsi, vi\u00f0 erum afsprengi umhverfis okkar sem er d\u00f3minera\u00f0 af hinu almenna; l\u00e6gsta samnefnaranum fr\u00e6ga. \u00deess vegna er mikilv\u00e6gt a\u00f0 vera duglegur, einbeittur og me\u00f0vita\u00f0ur.<\/p>\n<p>Til er list sem hefur svipu\u00f0 einkenni og hin einbeitt \u00e1genga. \u00a0List sem hefur sterkan heildarsvip, l\u00e6tur l\u00edti\u00f0 stj\u00f3rnast af hinu almenna og l\u00e6r\u00f0a (\u00fe\u00f3 au\u00f0vita\u00f0 a\u00f0 einhverju leyti), en n\u00e6r \u00feessu fram \u00e1 fullkomlega fyrirhafnarlausann h\u00e1tt. \u00a0l\u00b4Art Brut e\u00f0a outsider art; list ge\u00f0sj\u00fakra, list fatla\u00f0ra, list hinna einangru\u00f0u. 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\u00feegar \u00f6llu er \u00e1 botninn hvolft er \u00fea\u00f0 bara f\u00f3lk a\u00f0 koma e\u00f0a koma ekki \u00e1 t\u00f3nleika. M\u00e9r finnst pers\u00f3nulega a\u00f0 ef listr\u00e6nt \u00e1geng framsetning hafi veri\u00f0 vi\u00f0urkennd \u00fe\u00e1 er n\u00f3g a\u00f0 henni s\u00e9 vi\u00f0haldi\u00f0, \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 mun skapa meira sj\u00e1lfst\u00e6\u00f0i en a\u00f0 reyna bara a\u00f0 fara einhvern veginn gegn norminu sem er. S.s. \u00e9g held a\u00f0 \u00ed \u00f6llum tilfellum s\u00e9 sterkara a\u00f0 skapa n\u00fd norm og standa fullkomlega me\u00f0 \u00feeim, heldur en a\u00f0 stefna alltaf gegn norminu sama hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er og vera \u00fear af lei\u00f0andi alltaf \u00ed beinum d\u00edal\u00f3g vi\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 og beinn \u00e1hrifa\u00fe\u00e1ttur \u00feess. En \u00e9g held a\u00f0 listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi ver\u00f0i a\u00f0 vera fyrst og fremst pers\u00f3nulegt. Spurningin er \u00fe\u00e1, er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 setja \u00fat \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 sem f\u00f3lk gerir pers\u00f3nulega og spurt hvort einhver s\u00e9 raunverulega a\u00f0 vera listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengur e\u00f0a er \u00fea\u00f0 alltaf undir hverjum og einum komi\u00f0. Er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 gagnr\u00fdna a\u00f0ra fyrir og efast um hvort \u00feeir s\u00e9u a\u00f0 vera listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengir? \u00dea\u00f0 er erfi\u00f0 spurning.<br \/>\n\u00c9g var mj\u00f6g samm\u00e1la P\u00e1li \u00ed \u00feessu samhengi, \u00a0me\u00f0 spa\u00f0ana og \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 menn eru ekkert merkilegir e\u00f0a listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengir \u00ed sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r. Hins vegar geta menn l\u00e1ti\u00f0 \u00e1gengi af s\u00e9r lei\u00f0a me\u00f0 mikilli fyrirh\u00f6fn og \u00e1gengi getur komi\u00f0 fyrir f\u00f3lk en enginn getur veri\u00f0 listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengur \u00ed e\u00f0li s\u00ednu. \u00deess vegna er \u00feetta alltaf pers\u00f3nulegt markmi\u00f0 e\u00f0a t\u00edmabundi\u00f0 \u00e1stand en ekki einhver stimpill sem ma\u00f0ur n\u00e6r. \u00de\u00f3 er \u00e9g samm\u00e1la \u00feessu s\u00ed\u00f0asta sem palli sag\u00f0i, a\u00f0 um lei\u00f0 og ma\u00f0ur hefur b\u00fai\u00f0 s\u00e9r til sto\u00f0ir og tileinka\u00f0 s\u00e9r \u00fe\u00e6r er komi\u00f0 st\u00fdrikerfi \u00ed gang sem h\u00e6gt er a\u00f0 keyra ofan \u00e1. En \u00e9g hef \u00edmynda\u00f0 m\u00e9r a\u00f0 f\u00f3lk geti or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u00f3samm\u00e1la um \u00feann punkt.<br \/>\n\u00c9g er hins vegar ekkert s\u00e9rstaklega samm\u00e1la \u00der\u00e1nni og m\u00e9r fannst punktar sem hann sag\u00f0i vera d\u00e6mi um \u00fereyttar m\u00f3dern\u00edskar hugmyndir. Undarlegt a\u00f0 nota or\u00f0i\u00f0 te\u00f3l\u00f3g\u00eda \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed samhengi. \u00c9g held \u00ed fyrsta lagi a\u00f0 ma\u00f0ur skilur sig ekki neitt fr\u00e1 hlutum nema a\u00f0 \u00e6tla \u00fea\u00f0. Auk \u00feess finnst m\u00e9r ekkert a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00e6tla a\u00f0 gera fallega og gu\u00f0lega t\u00f3nlist. Svo lengi sem \u00fea\u00f0 er algj\u00f6rlega undir manns d\u00fdpsta og innsta eigin skilningi \u00e1 fallegu og gu\u00f0legu en ekki samf\u00e9lagslegum skilningi um \u00fea\u00f0. Pers\u00f3nulega vil \u00e9g halda alv\u00f6ru p\u00f3lit\u00edk og tr\u00fam\u00e1lum \u00fat \u00far svona samr\u00e6\u00f0um \u00fev\u00ed \u00e9g held a\u00f0 f\u00f3lk geti veri\u00f0 samm\u00e1la um listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 vera samm\u00e1la \u00e1 \u00feeim svi\u00f0um. N\u00fdfrj\u00e1lshyggjumenn, nasistar, anarkistar, komm\u00fanistar, m\u00faslimar, ka\u00fe\u00f3likkar, b\u00faddistar, gy\u00f0ingar og tr\u00faleysingjar \u00e6ttu a\u00f0 geta haft svipa\u00f0a hugmynd um listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi \u00fe\u00f3tt \u00feeir v\u00e6ru \u00f3samm\u00e1la um hvernig \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0hagsskipulag eigi a\u00f0 vera e\u00f0a hvering giftingar eigi a\u00f0 fara fram. \u00deetta segji \u00e9g l\u00edka vegna \u00feess a\u00f0 \u00e9g hef kannski a\u00f0rar hugmyndir um andleg m\u00e1lefni en sumir \u00ed samt\u00f6kunum og \u00fea\u00f0 er bara f\u00ednt. Vissulega finnst m\u00e9r mikilv\u00e6gt a\u00f0 hafa \u00feekkingu, vita hva\u00f0 ma\u00f0ur kann svo ma\u00f0ur geti ey\u00f0ilagt \u00fea\u00f0 og byggt n\u00fdtt \u00e1 me\u00f0vita\u00f0an h\u00e1tt. Hins vegar \u00ed 90% tilfella \u00ed \u00f6llu veit enginn neitt af hverju neitt gerist. Skilningur er forsenda framfara en ef ma\u00f0ur \u00e1ttar sig ekki \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 flesta hluti mun ma\u00f0ur aldrei skilja er ma\u00f0ur fastur \u00ed svartholi. Pers\u00f3nulega hef \u00e9g hrifist mj\u00f6g af skrifum Cage um Satie og marsinn gegn skilningi. F\u00f3lk vill blekkja sig a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 skilji miklu meira en \u00fea\u00f0 gerir. Ef ma\u00f0ur skilur allt svona vel, af hverju er ma\u00f0ur \u00fe\u00e1 a\u00f0 gera t\u00f3nlist? N\u00fa er til f\u00f3lk sem ey\u00f0ir \u00f6llum s\u00ednum kr\u00f6ftum \u00ed a\u00f0 leitast vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 skilja \u00fea\u00f0. Sl\u00edkt tel \u00e9g algj\u00f6rlega tilgangslaust. 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braut. \u00a0\u00dea\u00f0 m\u00e6tti skipta hugsunum okkar \u00ed tvennt; verbal og non-verbal. \u00a0D\u00fdrin, sem aldrei breytast og geta seint talist listr\u00e6nt \u00e1geng, hafa einungis \u00far non-verbal hugsunum a\u00f0 mo\u00f0a(sennilega umdeilt). \u00a0A\u00f0 geta hugsa\u00f0 \u00ed or\u00f0um (tungum\u00e1l) er \u00fea\u00f0 sem a\u00f0greinir okkur fr\u00e1 hinum stat\u00edsku d\u00fdrum. \u00a0S\u00farrealistarnir reyndu a\u00f0 s\u00f6kkva s\u00e9r ofan \u00ed undirme\u00f0vitundina, a\u00f0 h\u00e1marka notkun non-verbal hugsunar til listsk\u00f6punar og er \u00fea\u00f0 vel en \u00feeir hef\u00f0u sennilega ekki gert \u00fea\u00f0 \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a \u00fea\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0 (eigum vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a \u00fea\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0?) 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M\u00e9r finnst \u00feetta \u00ed raun einskor\u00f0ast vi\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengi hl\u00fdtur a\u00f0 vera \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 vera sem mest listr\u00e6nn, skapa sem mest af \u00fev\u00ed sem ma\u00f0ur gerir. \u00de\u00e1 skiptir engu \u00fe\u00f3 a\u00f0 einhver komi og segji, \u201e\u00feetta er alveg eins og Norsk \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0lagat\u00f3nlist \u00e1 17.\u00f6ld,\u201c ef s\u00e1 sem skapar vissi ekkert af \u00fev\u00ed. Samkv\u00e6mt sinni bestu vitund var vi\u00f0komandi kannski a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 vera eins listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengur og m\u00f6gulegt er. Kannski finnst f\u00f3lki \u00fea\u00f0 skemmtilegt, lei\u00f0inlegt, fur\u00f0ulegt e\u00f0a kemur \u00fev\u00ed ekkert \u00e1 \u00f3vart. \u00cd sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r finnst m\u00e9r \u00fea\u00f0 ekki a\u00f0alatri\u00f0i. 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Tek h\u00e9r sm\u00e1 klass\u00edskt d\u00e6mi. M\u00e9r hefur alltaf fundist Charles Ives vera d\u00e6mi um mann sem var \u00e1gengur \u00ed sinni t\u00f3nsk\u00f6pun, e.t.v. eitthva\u00f0 sem \u00e9g \u00fearf a\u00f0 endursko\u00f0a!!!. T\u00f3nlistin er ekki endilega svo \u00e1geng \u00ed n\u00fat\u00edmasamf\u00e9lagi en a\u00f0fer\u00f0ir hans eru og voru \u00e1gengar a\u00f0 m\u00ednu mati. Ef \u00e9g skil \u00feessa fullyr\u00f0ingu r\u00e9tt \u00fe\u00e1 telst G.S. Gunnarsson Ives ekki hafa veri\u00f0 \u00e1gengan. Fyrir m\u00e9r er a\u00f0fer\u00f0 vi\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00f6pun einnig miki\u00f0 hug\u00f0arefni. \u00de\u00e1 er reyndar von m\u00edn a\u00f0 \u00ed sta\u00f0h\u00e6fingu G.S.Gunnarsson s\u00e9 l\u00edka \u00e1tt vi\u00f0 gamlar t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0aa\u00f0fer\u00f0ir. \u00deannig a\u00f0 fyrir m\u00e9r skiptir minna m\u00e1li hva\u00f0 heyrist heldur a\u00f0fer\u00f0in \u00ed verkum C.Ives<br \/>\n\u00dar \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 verk mitt WM barst til tals og spurning hvort \u00fea\u00f0 hafi veri\u00f0 \u00e1gengt t\u00f3nverk f\u00e9kk mig d\u00e1liti\u00f0 til a\u00f0 sp\u00e1 a\u00f0eins \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed me\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 \u00ed huga a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0mundur Steinn hefur lagt sinn sleggjud\u00f3m og d\u00e6mt verki\u00f0 \u00f3\u00e1gengt.<br \/>\n\u00der\u00e1tt fyrir \u00f3\u00e1gengi verksins finnst m\u00e9r verki\u00f0 hafa tekist mj\u00f6g vel og framar vonum alveg.<br \/>\nN\u00fa greini \u00e9g fr\u00e1 tildr\u00f6gum verksins: \u00deegar bo\u00f0 um a\u00f0 skrifa verk fyrir m\u00f6rg fagott og hugsanlega 2 kontrafagott langa\u00f0i mig strax a\u00f0 skrifa verk um speglun, t\u00f3nlist \u00e1 hvolfi. Eftir margar misheppna\u00f0ar tilraunir, \u00fe\u00e1 f\u00e9kk \u00e9g \u00fe\u00e1 hugmynd a\u00f0 au\u00f0vita\u00f0 v\u00e6ri best a\u00f0 s\u00edna t\u00f3nlist \u00e1 hvolfi me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 draga fram fr\u00e6gasta verk t\u00f3ns\u00f6gunnar og hafa \u00fea\u00f0 bara spegla\u00f0 (kannski heimskulegt a\u00f0 vilja gera verk bara um speglun en \u00e9g l\u00e6t \u00fea\u00f0 liggja \u00e1 milli hluta). Verki\u00f0 er ekki um Mozart e\u00f0a a\u00f0ra t\u00f3nlist. Verki\u00f0 er um speglun. Ef \u00e9g myndi til a\u00f0 mynda vera myndlistarma\u00f0ur og langa\u00f0i a\u00f0 gera verk um speglun \u00fe\u00e1 myndi \u00e9g \u00f6rugglega taka M\u00f3nu L\u00edsu (\u00far \u00fev\u00ed J\u00f3nas Sen nefndi hana) og hafa hana \u00e1 hvolfi. Fyrir m\u00e9r er a\u00f0fer\u00f0in og \u00fea\u00f0 litla verk sem var gert \u00e1 verki Mozarts \u00e1gengt. Fyrir m\u00e9r er a\u00f0fer\u00f0in verki\u00f0. 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eintaklingur getur l\u00edka veri\u00f0 \u00e1gengur (\u00e1hersla \u00e1 l\u00edka) \u00fe\u00f3tt svo a\u00f0 sumir artifaktarnir sem eftir hann lyggja s\u00e9u ekki endilega bullandi \u00e1gengni svo lengi sem \u00feeir spretta \u00far einhverri \u00e1gengri hugsun sem er gegnumgangandi \u00ed sk\u00f6pun \u00feess einstaklings. 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me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 draga fram fr\u00e6gasta verk t\u00f3ns\u00f6gunnar og hafa \u00fea\u00f0 bara spegla\u00f0&#8221;<br \/>\nRannstu \u00fat \u00e1 t\u00edma og nota\u00f0ir eitthva\u00f0 pl\u00f6ggin \u00ed n\u00f3tnaskriftarforriti bara til \u00feess a\u00f0 senda eitthva\u00f0?<br \/>\nHvort a\u00f0 listama\u00f0ur rennur \u00fat \u00e1 t\u00edma e\u00f0a einfaldleiki \u00ed hj\u00e1lpart\u00e6ki \u00e1kve\u00f0ins forrits vi\u00f0 a\u00f0fer\u00f0arvinnu verksins hefur ekkert me\u00f0 \u00e1gengi a\u00f0 gera. (Reyndar rann \u00e9g ekki \u00fat \u00e1 t\u00edma \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 t\u00f3k sinn t\u00edma a\u00f0 \u00fatf\u00e6ra verki\u00f0 fyrir 10 spilara me\u00f0 5 au\u00f0veldari p\u00f6rtum.)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;\u00der\u00e1tt fyrir \u00f3\u00e1gengi verksins finnst m\u00e9r verki\u00f0 hafa tekist mj\u00f6g vel og framar vonum alveg.&#8221;<br \/>\nHvernig hef\u00f0i \u00fea\u00f0 geta\u00f0 tekist illa? Hva\u00f0a g\u00e6\u00f0amat notar\u00f0u \u00ed \u00feessu tilfelli?<br \/>\n\u00dea\u00f0 hef\u00f0i tekist illa ef engin hef\u00f0i \u00e1tta\u00f0 sig \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 um v\u00e6ri spegla\u00f0 verk a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a. Eina g\u00e6\u00f0amati\u00f0 mitt \u00ed \u00feessu tilfelli er hvort a\u00f0fer\u00f0in hafi komist til skila og \u00fea\u00f0 ger\u00f0i h\u00fan. (\u00dearna er setningin tekin \u00far samhengi \u00fear sem or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u00f3\u00e1gengi er or\u00f0 G.S. Gunnarssonar)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Fyrir m\u00e9r er a\u00f0fer\u00f0in og \u00fea\u00f0 litla verk sem var gert \u00e1 verki Mozarts \u00e1gengt.&#8221; &#8220;Verki\u00f0 er ekki um Mozart e\u00f0a a\u00f0ra t\u00f3nlist. Verki\u00f0 er um speglun.&#8221; &#8220;Fyrir m\u00e9r er a\u00f0fer\u00f0in verki\u00f0.&#8221;<br \/>\nL\u00edtur \u00fe\u00fa \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 sem pers\u00f3nulega listr\u00e6nt \u00e1gengt fyrir \u00feig sem listamann a\u00f0 hafa spegla\u00f0 mozartstykki?<br \/>\nHvort verki\u00f0 er \u00e1gengt er \u00e9g ekki viss um. \u00dea\u00f0 er ekki mitt a\u00f0 d\u00e6ma heldur. \u00cd s\u00ed\u00f0ustu f\u00e6rslu ger\u00f0i \u00e9g \u00feau mist\u00f6k a\u00f0 skrifa a\u00f0 a\u00f0fer\u00f0in v\u00e6ri \u00e1geng og a\u00f0fer\u00f0in er verki\u00f0 svo sama sem verki\u00f0 er \u00e1gengt.<br \/>\nHins vegar held \u00e9g a\u00f0 fyrir mig hafi \u00fea\u00f0 veri\u00f0 rosalega f\u00edn \u00feerap\u00eda a\u00f0 gera verki\u00f0 og f\u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 flutt.<br \/>\n\u00de\u00e1 hef\u00f0i verki\u00f0 aldrei veri\u00f0 skrifa\u00f0 fyrir anna\u00f0 en 10 fagott. 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