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\u00fea\u00f0 hvernig s\u00fa tv\u00edhyggja sem \u00fe\u00e1 (fj\u00f6rut\u00edu og eitthva\u00f0) snerist um t\u00f3nal e\u00f0a at\u00f3nal muni \u00ed framt\u00ed\u00f0inni sn\u00faast um hlj\u00f3\u00f0 vs. t\u00f3na. Eins og margir g\u00f3\u00f0ir sp\u00e1d\u00f3mar hefur \u00fea\u00f0 kannski r\u00e6st a\u00f0 hluta en ekki a\u00f0 \u00f6llu leyti. Eflaust hafa margir hugsa\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0 svipa\u00f0 \u00e1 sama t\u00edma, fyrr e\u00f0a s\u00ed\u00f0ar.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>klippum h\u00e9r a\u00f0eins \u00e1 , innskot, \u00f6nnur tv\u00edhyggja:<\/p>\n<p>\u00d6nnur tv\u00edhyggja sem \u00e9g hef or\u00f0i\u00f0 fyrir bar\u00f0inu \u00e1 tengist t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0ar og spuni. Eitt sem m\u00e9r finnst einkar \u00f3\u00e1hugavert vi\u00f0 \u00feennan samanbur\u00f0 er a\u00f0 \u00feetta skyggir \u00e1 mikilv\u00e6gari punkta svo sem, bylgjur \u00ed vestr\u00e6nni framm\u00farstefnu t\u00f3nlist \u00f3h\u00e1\u00f0 a\u00f0fer\u00f0 s\u00ed\u00f0an 1960.<br \/>\nT\u00f6kum samhli\u00f0a \u00fer\u00f3un u.\u00fe.b. \u00feriggja fyrirb\u00e6ra \u00ed gr\u00f3fum dr\u00e1ttum s\u00ed\u00f0an \u00fe\u00e1, hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rat\u00f3nlist, spunat\u00f3nlist (og \u00f6nnur frams\u00e6kin ja\u00f0art\u00f3nlist sem fellur ekki undir hatt vestr\u00e6nnar hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rat\u00f3nlistar) og raft\u00f3nlist (af \u00fdmsum st\u00e6r\u00f0um og ger\u00f0um, inniheldur s\u00fabk\u00falt\u00fara)<\/p>\n<p>fyrir 1960<br \/>\nat\u00f3nal s\u00fapa<\/p>\n<p>upp\u00far 1960<br \/>\ns\u00fapa ver\u00f0ur oft a\u00f0 massa e\u00f0a drullu, grunnspurningar um hlj\u00f3\u00f0<\/p>\n<p>upp\u00far 1970<br \/>\n\u00d3hlj\u00f3\u00f0 sko\u00f0u\u00f0 me\u00f0 meira afgerandi h\u00e6tti<br \/>\nt\u00f3nar f\u00e6rast upp \u00ed yfirt\u00f3na og samhlj\u00f3m \u00feeirra<\/p>\n<p>upp\u00far 1980<br \/>\nlagt upp \u00ed hr\u00e6rigraut af \u00f6llu \u00feessu og \u00fev\u00ed sem \u00e1 undan f\u00f3r. Jafnvel fari\u00f0 aftur \u00ed t\u00f3na og sl\u00edkt.<\/p>\n<p>upp\u00far 1990<br \/>\nsamdr\u00e1ttur, red\u00faksj\u00f3nismi, lower case&#8230; \u00feagnir ver\u00f0a st\u00f3r \u00fe\u00e1ttur<\/p>\n<p>\u00de\u00f3tt \u00feetta s\u00e9 ofureinf\u00f6ldun er \u00feetta svona \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 pattern sem m\u00e9r finnst liggja samhli\u00f0a \u00ed \u00f3skyldum en \u00fe\u00f3 skyldum hornum. \u00de\u00f3 svo margt malli samhli\u00f0a \u00feessari \u00fer\u00f3un \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00feetta \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 mynstur. Kannski sameiginlegur undir\u00fe\u00e1ttur sem hefur \u00e1hrif \u00e1 allt.<\/p>\n<p>En alla vega,<\/p>\n<p>1) Hver er ykkar hugmynd um t\u00f3na og hlj\u00f3\u00f0, samspil, mikilv\u00e6gi&#8230;?<\/p>\n<p>2) Ef l\u00edk hlj\u00f3\u00f0 eru sett saman \u00ed graut er \u00fea\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 ekki n\u00e6r \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vera unison heldur en &#8220;hlj\u00f3mur&#8221; ef bori\u00f0 er saman vi\u00f0 t\u00f3nalist? Me\u00f0 \u00f6\u00f0rum or\u00f0um, t.d. effekt\u00faal t\u00f3nlist sem er t.d. gest\u00faral \u00ed senn, er h\u00fan ekki laus vi\u00f0 alla harm\u00f3n\u00edu og kontrapunkt heldur er bara \u00e1 unisono byrjunarreit, \u00fea\u00f0 er l\u00edk hlj\u00f3\u00f0 hlj\u00f3ma saman?<\/p>\n<p>3) V\u00e6ri h\u00e6gt (einstaklingur fyrir sj\u00e1lfan sig) a\u00f0 skilgreina hlj\u00f3\u00f0 \u00ed flokka e\u00f0a skala l\u00edkt og t\u00f3na \u00feannig a\u00f0, eins og t\u00f3ninn c\u00b4 er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 spila \u00e1 marga mismunandi hlj\u00f3\u00f0gjafa, a\u00f0 skilgreina einhvern \u00fer\u00f6skuld \u00e1 hven\u00e6r hlj\u00f3\u00f0 er fakt\u00edskt &#8220;sama hlj\u00f3\u00f0i\u00f0&#8221; samkv\u00e6mt samb\u00e6rilegu kerfi ? (ef \u00fei\u00f0 jafnvel noti\u00f0 sl\u00edkt e\u00f0a viti\u00f0 um sl\u00edkt endilega segja)<\/p>\n<p>4) M\u00e9r finnst \u00fe\u00e6r bylgjur sem \u00e9g l\u00fdsti \u00ed s\u00f6gukaflanum vera d\u00e6mi um einfeldningsh\u00e1tt, hver bylgja fyrir sig er aflei\u00f0ing, en engin sk\u00f6rp s\u00edn \u00e1 fagurfr\u00e6\u00f0ilegt jafnv\u00e6gi, samm\u00e1la \u00f3sammala?<\/p>\n<p>5) Vi\u00f0 \u00feekkjum \u00f3regluleg hlj\u00f3\u00f0 me\u00f0al annars eftir \u00e1kve\u00f0num relat\u00edvum samhlj\u00f3mi. Til eru hlj\u00f3\u00f0 me\u00f0 beygla\u00f0ar e\u00f0a strekktar yfirt\u00f3nara\u00f0ir sem finna samhlj\u00f3m \u00e1 \u00f6\u00f0rum t\u00ed\u00f0num en venjulegir t\u00f3nar. 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En svo \u00e9g sk\u00fdri m\u00e1l mitt. Ef st\u00f3ra dik\u00f3t\u00f3m\u00edan \u00ed vestr\u00e6nni t\u00f3nlist \u00ed dag er t\u00f3nlist sem hlj\u00f3mar eins og lag og t\u00f3nlist sem hlj\u00f3mar ekki eins og lag a\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00e9g ekkert a\u00f0 tala um djass e\u00f0a animal collective. \u00c9g var a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 b\u00faa til t\u00edmal\u00ednu \u00fer\u00f3unnar \u00ed t\u00f3nlist sem er ekki eins og lag. \u00c9g tel a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 mynstur \u00fer\u00f3unar sem hefur or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u00ed t\u00f3nlist sem er ekki eins og lag sem er eins og \u00e9g l\u00fdsti&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>1.priori kerfi til a\u00f0 losa t\u00f3na \u00fat \u00far t\u00f3nm\u00e1li&#8212;-&gt;2.t\u00f3nar fara \u00ed s\u00fapu og ver\u00f0a veggir&#8212;&#8211;&gt;3.hlj\u00f3\u00f0e\u00f0li og samhlj\u00f3\u00f0andi samsetningar hlj\u00f3\u00f0a&#8212;&#8212;&gt;4.hr\u00e6rigrautur af \u00f6llu \u00feessu&#8212;&#8212;&gt;5.samdr\u00e1ttur uppl\u00fdsinga.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g tel a\u00f0 \u00ed hverju \u00feessu s\u00e9u margar \u00f3l\u00edkar birtingarmyndir, \u00fe\u00f3 \u00feetta s\u00e9 d\u00e1li\u00f0 hlutdr\u00e6g fullyr\u00f0ing.<\/p>\n<p>En \u00ed \u00feessu undanskildi \u00e9g a\u00f0 sj\u00e1lfs\u00f6g\u00f0u alla t\u00f3nlist sem er me\u00f0 trommutakt og hef\u00f0bundnar lagl\u00ednur. En m\u00e9r finnst \u00feetta vera \u00e1kve\u00f0inn bogi \u00fer\u00f3unnar \u00ed alls kyns \u201e\u00f3hlutbundnari t\u00f3nlist\u201c (\u00fea\u00f0 er ekki h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 nota or\u00f0 eins og frams\u00e6ki\u00f0 lengur \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 er nota\u00f0 um allt). S\u00ed\u00f0n\u00fahyggja myndi \u00e9g samt segja a\u00f0 komi sk\u00fdrt fram \u00ed n\u00famer 4.(hr\u00e6rigrautur af \u00f6llu saman). En \u00e9g er fyrst og fremst a\u00f0 hugsa um hven\u00e6r \u00e1kve\u00f0inn ger\u00f0 uppl\u00fdsinga byrjar a\u00f0 vera stundu\u00f0 \u00ed einhverjum m\u00e6li.<\/p>\n<p>En d\u00e6mi um hvert og eitt myndi \u00e9g t.d. segja a\u00f0 v\u00e6ri<br \/>\n1. Ser\u00edalismi yfir h\u00f6fu\u00f0, sem og hlutkesti og svolei\u00f0is, fyrsta alspunam\u00fass\u00edkin og fleira<br \/>\n2. \u00fdmislegt \u00ed 60\u00b4sinu, einkum Ligeti, Penderecki, \u00fdmis raunt\u00edmaraft\u00f3nlist o.fl. m\u00e9r finnst noise t\u00f3nlist vera h\u00e9rna (m\u00e9r finnst ekki mikill e\u00f0lis munur \u00e1 Tudor\/Cage 60&#8217;s raft\u00f3nlist og Merzbow, \u00fe\u00f3 svo st\u00edlbrig\u00f0in og hlj\u00f3\u00f0in breytist)<br \/>\n3. Spektral m\u00fas\u00edk (\u00ed fr\u00f6nskum og r\u00famenskum skilningi), effekt\u00faal m\u00fas\u00edk, FM t\u00f6lvut\u00f3nlist, sum m\u00ednimal t\u00f3nlist (\u00fe\u00f3 mest af henni hlj\u00f3mi eins og lag).<br \/>\n4. T.d. N\u00fdfl\u00e6kja, Lindberg\/Saariaho\/skandinavisknutidamusik, post-spektral og \u00fdmis s\u00ed\u00f0n\u00fahyggju afbrig\u00f0i me\u00f0 mismiki\u00f0 af t\u00f3nlist sem hlj\u00f3mar eins og lag innan \u00ed.<br \/>\n5. Wandelweiser, Onkyo, lower case, red\u00faksj\u00f3nismi (foreshadow-a\u00f0 \u00ed seinni-t\u00edma Feldman, \u00a0Nono (\u00fe\u00f3 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 hvort tveggja t\u00f3nar) og Cage).<\/p>\n<p>Eins og \u00e9g segji, \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00e9g a\u00f0 setja fram \u00a0fullyr\u00f0ingar sem \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 m\u00f3del.<\/p>\n<p>En tv\u00edhyggjan milli t\u00f3na og hlj\u00f3\u00f0s er oft mj\u00f6g villandi, t.d. spektral m\u00fas\u00edk og soundplasmi, er \u00ed raun hlj\u00f3\u00f0massar bygg\u00f0ir \u00far t\u00f3num og \u00fe\u00e1 er f\u00f3kusinn \u00e1 \u00f6\u00f0ruv\u00edsi fen\u00f3meni. Oft koma inn\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 d\u00e1ldi\u00f0 hef\u00f0bundnar consconance\/dissonance p\u00e6lingar. 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Svona finnst m\u00e9r \u00feetta vera.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Eitt \u00fea\u00f0 lei\u00f0inlegasta vi\u00f0 fram\u00farstefnu er \u00feessi eil\u00edfa andsta\u00f0a. H\u00fan er svo barnaleg. Unglingur \u00ed andst\u00f6\u00f0u stj\u00f3rnast af foreldrum s\u00ednum, me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 gera akk\u00farat \u00f6fugt er hann h\u00e1\u00f0ur l\u00edka. Tv\u00f6 systkini telja sig vera andst\u00e6\u00f0ur en eru alveg eins. Eins og Nam June Paik sag\u00f0i: &#8220;\u00feegar poppk\u00falt\u00farinn er skemmtilegur er listheimurinn lei\u00f0inlegur, \u00feegar poppheimurinn er lei\u00f0inlegur er listheimurinn skemmtilegur, alltaf andst\u00e6tt.&#8221; Fram\u00farstefna er alltaf \u00ed andst\u00f6\u00f0u, \u00ed andst\u00f6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 hi\u00f0 gamla e\u00f0a andst\u00f6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 poppheiminn e\u00f0a andst\u00f6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 a\u00f0ra t.d. eldri fram\u00farstefnu. \u00deannig stj\u00f3rnast h\u00fan af \u00e1kv\u00f6r\u00f0unum annarra \u00ed sta\u00f0 \u00feess a\u00f0 b\u00faa til heildr\u00e6na s\u00fdn. Til d\u00e6mis: &#8220;\u00feessir gera \u00f3ge\u00f0slega miki\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 \u00e6tla \u00e9g a\u00f0 gera \u00f3ge\u00f0slega l\u00edti\u00f0, \u00feessir nota t\u00f3na \u00fe\u00e1 nota \u00e9g &#8220;hlj\u00f3\u00f0&#8221;, \u00feessir nota kerfi \u00e9g nota frj\u00e1lslegri n\u00e1lgun (e\u00f0a allt saman \u00f6fugt).&#8221; \u00cd sta\u00f0inn er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 vega og meta m\u00f6guleika hlj\u00f3\u00f0s og skynjunnar, hlj\u00f3\u00f0ger\u00f0arm\u00f6guleika, mi\u00f0lunarm\u00f6guleika og skynjunarm\u00f6guleika. Jafnvel bara gr\u00f3flega. \u00c1tta sig \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er margt sem er n\u00e1kv\u00e6mlega eins og hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er margt sem fylgir yfirleitt me\u00f0 \u00ed pakka sem enginn hendir \u00fat. \u00c1tta sig \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 b\u00faa til n\u00fdjann hlj\u00f3\u00f0veruleika og spyrja sj\u00e1lfan sig hvernig vill \u00e9g a\u00f0 hann s\u00e9 og heg\u00f0i s\u00e9r \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 einbeita s\u00e9r a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 gera alltaf hina hli\u00f0ina \u00e1 peningnum e\u00f0a bara velja s\u00e9r li\u00f0. \u00deegar ma\u00f0ur h\u00e6ttir andst\u00f6\u00f0unni er ma\u00f0ur b\u00fainn a\u00f0 klippa \u00e1 \u00feann d\u00edal\u00f3g sem ma\u00f0ur \u00fearf ekki og mun bara halda manni \u00ed sama farinu, (\u00fe\u00f3 svo a\u00f0 kannski s\u00e9 andsta\u00f0a skei\u00f0 sem \u00fearf a\u00f0 ganga \u00ed gegnum til \u00feess a\u00f0 \u00e1tta sig \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed).<\/p>\n<p>R\u00e9tt eins og \u00e9g get gert pers\u00f3nulega l\u00fdsingu \u00e1 allri fram\u00farstefnulegri hlj\u00f3\u00f0ger\u00f0 undanfarin 60 \u00e1r og dregi\u00f0 \u00ed 5 dilka get \u00e9g gert sl\u00edkt hi\u00f0 sama vi\u00f0 hlj\u00f3\u00f0. \u00d6ll hlj\u00f3\u00f0 \u00ed heiminum. \u00dear sem \u00e9g stend er mi\u00f0ja alheimsins. \u00c9g skipti \u00f6llum hlj\u00f3\u00f0um \u00ed heiminum sem \u00e9g vil nota \u00ed t\u00f3nlist upp \u00ed 8 flokka, en sem komi\u00f0 er:<\/p>\n<p>pitslaust p\u00fabb<br \/>\np\u00fabb<br \/>\n\u00e1herzlup\u00fabb<\/p>\n<p>glitsk\u00fd<br \/>\nbrooo<br \/>\nlaaa<\/p>\n<p>pj\u00fa\u00fa\u00fa ni\u00f0r\u00e1vi\u00f0<br \/>\npj\u00fa\u00fa\u00fa upp\u00e1vi\u00f0<\/p>\n<p>Eins og bilin s\u00edna skipti \u00e9g \u00feessu \u00ed \u00ferj\u00e1 yfir flokka. \u00deetta er allur heimurinn. Allur heimur hlj\u00f3\u00f0sins eins og hann kemur m\u00e9r fyrir sj\u00f3nir. \u00c9g er l\u00edka a\u00f0 b\u00faa til algilda n\u00f3tasj\u00f3n fyrir \u00f6ll hlj\u00f3\u00f0 og allan hryn \u00ed heiminum. \u00dea\u00f0 er hi\u00f0 eina r\u00e9tta og \u00fea\u00f0 er nau\u00f0synlegt. \u00deetta er kjarninn fyrir m\u00e9r. Anna\u00f0 er \u00fatf\u00e6rslu atri\u00f0i. 8 er alveg n\u00f3g til a\u00f0 vinna me\u00f0, ein \u00e1ttund, meira a\u00f0 segja oktat\u00f3n\u00edk frekar en d\u00edat\u00f3n\u00edk. Sumt af \u00feessu eru venjulega hlj\u00f3\u00f0 e\u00f0a venjulega t\u00f3nar \u00fe\u00f3 margt geta veri\u00f0 gr\u00f3fur t\u00f3nn e\u00f0a hlj\u00f3\u00f0. \u00c9g get flokka\u00f0 allt hlj\u00f3\u00f0 sem \u00e9g heyri \u00ed einhverja af \u00feessum kateg\u00f3r\u00edum. En \u00feegar \u00e9g vil nota \u00fe\u00e6r \u00ed t\u00f3nlist vil \u00e9g gefa \u00feeim s\u00e9rt\u00e6kari merkingu. Hver flokkur er bundinn \u00e1kve\u00f0nu registeri og d\u00fdnam\u00edk. Pj\u00fa\u00fa\u00fa er til d\u00e6mis eins og gliss en ef \u00e9g nota \u00fea\u00f0 hefur \u00fea\u00f0 \u00e1kve\u00f0na l\u00f6gun, byrjar hratt, h\u00e6gist svo, feidar \u00fat. \u00deessi hlj\u00f3\u00f0 lenda saman, heyrast samt\u00edmis \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 vinna a\u00f0 sama markmi\u00f0inu endilega. \u00c9g vil yfirleitt nota f\u00e1a t\u00f3na sem byggja \u00e1 just intonation e\u00f0a einhvers konar yfirt\u00f3na hlutf\u00f6llum, en helst vil \u00e9g b\u00faa til anna\u00f0 kerfi sem tekur hlj\u00f3\u00f0ger\u00f0 inn\u00ed j\u00f6fnuna. \u00dea\u00f0 hefur m\u00e9r ekki tekist. \u00c9g vil s\u00ed\u00f0an b\u00faa til strangar reglur um hva\u00f0a hlj\u00f3\u00f0 meiga heyrast saman og hva\u00f0a hlj\u00f3\u00f0 ekki.<\/p>\n<p>Svona er minn sannleikur um allt hlj\u00f3\u00f0 \u00ed heiminum. 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