{"id":808,"date":"2009-06-04T23:17:43","date_gmt":"2009-06-04T23:17:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.slatur.is\/?p=808"},"modified":"2011-05-15T23:18:12","modified_gmt":"2011-05-15T23:18:12","slug":"hvad-er-tonskald","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.slatur.is\/?p=808","title":{"rendered":"Hva\u00f0 er t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"nabble\">\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/\">S.L.\u00c1.T.U.R.<\/a><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/template\/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=login_page&amp;nextUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fs-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com%2FHva-er-tonskald-td3027743.html\">Login<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/user\/Register.jtp?nextUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fs-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com%2FHva-er-tonskald-td3027743.html\">Register<\/a> <script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <![CDATA[\nNabble.userHeader();\n\/\/ ]]><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h1 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\u00ed \u00feessu tilliti er einna helst a\u00f0 minnast \u00e1 grein Berg\u00fe\u00f3ru J\u00f3nsd\u00f3ttur \u00fear sem \u00fdmsum vangaveltum um samruna listgreina \u00e6tti s\u00e9r sta\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00cdslandi, \u00feessi grein birtist n\u00fana \u00ed Lesb\u00f3kinn vori\u00f0 2009. \u00c1g\u00e6ta svargrein er a\u00f0 finna \u00e1 bloggi Gu\u00f0mundar Steins h\u00e9r: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gudmundursteinn.blog.is\/blog\/gudmundursteinn\/entry\/824045\/\" target=\"_top\">http:\/\/www.gudmundursteinn.blog.is\/blog\/gudmundursteinn\/entry\/824045\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1st\u00e6\u00f0an fyrir a\u00f0 \u00e9g minnist \u00e1 \u00feessa grein \u00ed upphafi umr\u00e6\u00f0unar er vegna \u00feess a\u00f0 eitt af \u00fev\u00ed sem Berg\u00fe\u00f3ra f\u00f3r \u00ed gegnum \u00e1 hundahlaupum \u00ed grein sinni var a\u00f0 h\u00fan virtist ekki geta\u00f0 \u00edmynda\u00f0 s\u00e9r a\u00f0 myndlistarmenn sem a\u00f0 b\u00faa til hlj\u00f3\u00f0sk\u00falpt\u00fara s\u00e9u ekki t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld. \u00cd \u00feessum or\u00f0um Berg\u00fe\u00f3ru glittir \u00ed eitt helsta pseudo-vandam\u00e1li\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00cdslandi, hva\u00f0 er t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld?<\/p>\n<p>Hugtaki\u00f0 \u201et\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld\u201c: A\u00f0 v\u00edsu sag\u00f0i Berg\u00fe\u00f3ra l\u00edka \u00ed greininni, a\u00f0 \u00ed hennar augum v\u00e6ru \u00feeir sem byggju til sk\u00falpt\u00fara, v\u00edde\u00f3list og unnu me\u00f0 flest a\u00f0ra mi\u00f0la heldur en m\u00e1lverki\u00f0, ekki vera myndlistarmenn. Viku seinna birtist \u00ed Lesb\u00f3kinni svargrein Margr\u00e9tar E. \u00d3lafsd\u00f3ttur fagurfr\u00e6\u00f0ings \u00fear sem h\u00fan benti \u00e1 galla \u00feessa s\u00e9rkennilegu sko\u00f0unar Berg\u00fe\u00f3ru.<br \/>\nSamkv\u00e6mt \u00feeirri skilgreiningu yr\u00f0i l\u00edkleg ni\u00f0ursta\u00f0a um hva\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld s\u00e9, a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 \u201es\u00e1 sem semur \u00e1 papp\u00edr\u201c. \u00dea\u00f0 er \u00ed raun framsetningin \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed hvernig t\u00f3nlistinni er komi\u00f0 til skila sem a\u00f0 skilgreinir t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0. \u00derengri skilgreining v\u00e6ri a\u00f0 segja a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0 semji fyrir t\u00f3nleikavettvang og einna helst \u00fear sem klass\u00edskt mennta\u00f0ir hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6raleikarar flytja t\u00f3nlista.<\/p>\n<p>Eigin vi\u00f0horf til \u201et\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldsins\u201c:<br \/>\n\u00dea\u00f0 er m\u00edn sko\u00f0un a\u00f0 me\u00f0 \u00feessari hugmyndarfr\u00e6\u00f0i er b\u00fai\u00f0 a\u00f0 sn\u00ed\u00f0a t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldinu of \u00fer\u00f6ngan stakk, \u00fea\u00f0 er \u00ed raun eint\u00f3m \u00fev\u00e6la a\u00f0 \u00e1 okkar t\u00edmum a\u00f0 \u00feetta skuli vera algilt vi\u00f0horf og a\u00f0rar sko\u00f0anir undantekning undan \u00fev\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>A\u00f0 eigin mati finnst m\u00e9r a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld framt\u00ed\u00f0arinnar s\u00e9u allir \u00feeir sem a\u00f0 semja t\u00f3nlist \u00f3h\u00e1\u00f0 framsetningarm\u00e1ta hennar.<\/p>\n<p>Menntun \u201et\u00f3nsk\u00e1lda\u201c: Hlutverk menntunar \u00ed \u00feessum efnum, a\u00f0 mennta sig \u00ed t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0um, s\u00e9 hluti \u00fear sem fari\u00f0 er \u00ed a\u00f0 \u201e\u00fer\u00f3a\u201c t\u00f3nlist, og \u00ed framt\u00ed\u00f0inni f\u00e6list \u00fea\u00f0 \u00ed hlutverki mennta\u00f0s t\u00f3nsk\u00e1lds a\u00f0 stunda hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rasm\u00ed\u00f0i, n\u00fdsm\u00ed\u00f0i mi\u00f0lunar (h\u00f6nnun t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0ami\u00f0ilsins), innsetningar o. fl. \u00feess h\u00e1ttar, a\u00f0 \u00ed raun yr\u00f0u skilgreiningin t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld bundin vi\u00f0 einhvern sem a\u00f0 vinnur \u00e1 markvissan h\u00e1tt me\u00f0 hlj\u00f3\u00f0 sem vettvang til tj\u00e1skiptami\u00f0lunar.<br \/>\n\u00c9g nefni a\u00f0 \u201e\u00fer\u00f3un\u201c t\u00f3nlistar s\u00e9 mikilv\u00e6g, sem er \u00ed sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r frekar vond hvatning \u00ed sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r, en \u00fear \u00e1 \u00e9g vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 t\u00f3nlistin f\u00e6rist \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 stig a\u00f0 geta veri\u00f0 \u00ed beinum tengslum vi\u00f0 \u00feann veruleika sem h\u00fan \u00fer\u00edfst \u00ed, \u00ed listgreininni hefur t\u00f3nlist veri\u00f0 aftarlega \u00e1 merinni vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 vera \u00ed tengslum vi\u00f0 strauma og stefnu \u00ed samf\u00e9laginu.<\/p>\n<p>Um or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u201et\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld\u201c:\u00c9g hef fyrir l\u00f6ngu bent \u00e1 m\u00e1lvilluna sem felst \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld sem a\u00f0 vinnur me\u00f0 hlj\u00f3\u00f0i\u00f0 fremur en t\u00f3nanna teljist sem t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld, hef \u00e1\u00f0ur komi\u00f0 me\u00f0 betri l\u00fdsingu sem a\u00f0 v\u00edsu er \u00fatlenskur bastar\u00f0ur og nefnist \u201es\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld\u201c, \u00feetta er kannski \u00f3\u00fearfa vitleysa, en \u00feetta l\u00fdsir fyrirb\u00e6rinu betur.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deetta \u00e1\u00f0ur upptalda sem \u00e6tti a\u00f0 vera hlutverk t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldsins er \u00ed raun or\u00f0inn partur af vettvangi t\u00f3nsk\u00e1lda \u00fat\u00ed heimi \u00ed dag en litla \u00cdsland er enn fast \u00ed g\u00f6mlum skor\u00f0um, \u00e9g vona innilega a\u00f0 \u00feau \u00edslensku t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld sem n\u00fa eru \u00ed n\u00e1mi h\u00e9rlendis e\u00f0a erlendis og eru framt\u00ed\u00f0art\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld \u00cdslands, l\u00edti \u00e1 \u00feessa arfleif\u00f0 \u00e1 gagnr\u00fdninn h\u00e1tt og bi\u00f0 \u00feau um a\u00f0 for\u00f0ast \u00feessa lei\u00f0indaflokkun um a\u00f0 \u00feau geti ekki veri\u00f0 \u00e1fram t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld ef \u00feau f\u00e6ra sig fr\u00e1 papp\u00edrsmi\u00f0linum.<\/p>\n<p>Ni\u00f0urlag, \u00e1vinningur \u00feessarar umr\u00e6\u00f0u: \u00c9g l\u00edt svo \u00e1 a\u00f0 me\u00f0 skilgreiningu \u00e1 hlutverki og e\u00f0li ef vi\u00f0 n\u00e1um a\u00f0 skilgreina t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0 enn sk\u00fdrar, hlutverk og e\u00f0li, \u00fe\u00e1 tel \u00e9g a\u00f0 fram\u00fer\u00f3unin ver\u00f0i markvissari, vi\u00f0 getum leita\u00f0 \u00ed n\u00fdja mi\u00f0la \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 draga \u00ed efa t\u00f3nlistarlegt gildi \u00feeirra. 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Skil hva\u00f0 \u00fe\u00fa meinar n\u00fana.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Alla vega. \u00de\u00f3 \u00e9g s\u00e9 alltaf a\u00f0 t\u00f6nglast \u00e1 g\u00f6mlu g\u00f3\u00f0u \u201emi\u00f0illinn er skilabo\u00f0in\u201c-p\u00e6lingunni \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00e9g mj\u00f6g \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 listin e\u00f0a listgreinin er ekki mi\u00f0illinn. \u00dear me\u00f0 er listgreinin jafnvel ekki skilabo\u00f0in. \u00c9g held a\u00f0 listin s\u00e9 hvatinn sem liggur a\u00f0 baki og listgreinin s\u00e9 samr\u00e6\u00f0an, i\u00f0jan e\u00f0a a\u00f0ger\u00f0in sem listin flettir sig me\u00f0vita\u00f0 e\u00f0a \u00f3me\u00f0vita\u00f0 innan \u00ed. \u00de\u00f3 svo a\u00f0 \u00e9g tr\u00fai \u00e1 n\u00fdju tannhj\u00f3lin og allt \u00fea\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 sprettur allt upp \u00far einhverjum jar\u00f0vegi sama hvort manni l\u00edkar betur e\u00f0a verr, sama hvort um s\u00e9 a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a framhald e\u00f0a and\u00f3f e\u00f0a jafvel losun \u00fat \u00far sl\u00edkum d\u00edal\u00f3g (=N.T.), \u00fev\u00ed \u00fe\u00e1 er ma\u00f0ur samt a\u00f0 mo\u00f0a \u00far \u00feeim uppl\u00fdsingum sem til hafa or\u00f0i\u00f0 fyrir, \u00ed tilraun sinni til hreinsk\u00f6punnar. Listgreinin tekur vi\u00f0 sm\u00e1skilabo\u00f0unum og byggir \u00e1 \u00feeim, \u00e1 me\u00f0an mi\u00f0illin b\u00fdr til st\u00f3ru skilabo\u00f0 menningarinnar. S.s. b\u00f3k er ekki endilega eftir rith\u00f6fund, n\u00f3tur eru ekkert endilega eftir t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld og geisladiskur getur veri\u00f0 einnig eftir rith\u00f6fund. \u00dear me\u00f0 er listgreininn eitthva\u00f0 anna\u00f0 en mi\u00f0illin og samr\u00e6\u00f0a listgreinarinnar fer eftir einhverju \u00f6\u00f0ru en mi\u00f0linum sj\u00e1lfum.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deannig held \u00e9g a\u00f0 hlj\u00f3\u00f0 hafi alltaf veri\u00f0 til \u00fev\u00ed allt var\u00f0 til \u00far hlj\u00f3\u00f0i og \u00fear \u00e1\u00f0ur var ekkert. \u00de\u00e1 held \u00e9g a\u00f0 t\u00f3nlist hafi komi\u00f0 \u00e1 undan tungum\u00e1li og forsendur tungum\u00e1ls sprottnar upp \u00far t\u00f3nlist. \u00dear me\u00f0 er allt \u00fea\u00f0 sem vestr\u00e6n menning \u00e1l\u00edtur mannlegt frekar en d\u00fdrslegt sprotti\u00f0 upp \u00far t\u00f3nlist. Einnig hefur allt \u00fea\u00f0 sem ma\u00f0urinn hefur \u00e1liti\u00f0 andlegt alltaf veri\u00f0 tengt t\u00f3nlist. Fr\u00e1 \u00f6r\u00f3fi alda og \u00ed flestum menningum sem vita\u00f0 hefur veri\u00f0 um er til l\u00edt\u00f0 tannhj\u00f3l og st\u00f3rt tannhj\u00f3l. Andleg t\u00f3nlist og skemmtit\u00f3nlist (s\u00e9rt\u00e6kt og almennt, jafnvel). Andlega t\u00f3nlistin \u00fer\u00f3ast yfir \u00ed f\u00edna t\u00f3nlist og \u00fea\u00f0an yfir \u00ed g\u00e1fulega t\u00f3nlist. Galdral\u00e6knir sem l\u00e6knar f\u00f3lk me\u00f0 trommuslagi er t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld me\u00f0an a\u00f0 s\u00e1 sem spilar \u00e1 trommu fyrir dans er skemmtikraftur e\u00f0a hver sem er. T\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld er galdral\u00e6knir. Lar\u00edm\u00fan\u00edmar\u00edjar\u00ed.<br \/>\n\u00d3kei, hvar var \u00e9g. Hinn g\u00e1fulegi t\u00f3nlistarheimur dagsins \u00ed dag e\u00f0a vissar kre\u00f0sur (margar \u00feeirra sem eru valdamestar) kenna sig rosalega miki\u00f0 vi\u00f0 mi\u00f0ilinn, finnst manni stundum. Sem virkar ekki vel, sj\u00e1 eftirfarandi fullyr\u00f0ingar. Bacharach var t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld. Hann skrifa\u00f0i allt \u00fat, var l\u00e6r\u00f0ur og sl\u00edkt. Handverkslega og mi\u00f0ilslega s\u00e9\u00f0 er ekkert sem getur sagt a\u00f0 hann s\u00e9 ekki t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld nema \u00fat af samhenginu sem hann var \u00ed. Samt vir\u00f0ist t\u00f3nlistar-establishmenti\u00f0 rosalega duglegt \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 nota mi\u00f0ilinn sem kr\u00edter\u00edu til \u00feess a\u00f0 for\u00f0ast \u00e1leitnar spurningar. Til d\u00e6mis vir\u00f0ist vera tendens t\u00f3nlistarestablishments til \u00feess a\u00f0 skilja eftir allt sem heitir and-list me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 leyfa myndlistinni bara a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 um \u00fea\u00f0. Sem d\u00e6mi, dadaist\u00edsk og f\u00fat\u00far\u00edst\u00edsk t\u00f3nlist og hlj\u00f3\u00f0alj\u00f3\u00f0 og sl\u00edkt hafa aldrei komist inn \u00ed t\u00f3nlistarlega samr\u00e6\u00f0u og sama er a\u00f0 segja um allt sem heitir fl\u00faxus \u00fe\u00f3 svo a\u00f0 upprunalega framvar\u00f0asveit hreyfingarinnar hafi veri\u00f0 t\u00f3nlistarmenn. Hugmyndir sem eiga r\u00e6tur s\u00ednar \u00ed t\u00f3nlistargeiranum b\u00faa til mikinn d\u00edal\u00f3g \u00ed \u00f6\u00f0rum greinum en t\u00f3nlist. S.s. 4&#8217;33&#8221; er afgreitt me\u00f0 banal spurningum \u00ed t\u00f3nlist og fjalla\u00f0 um sem brandara \u00e1 me\u00f0an \u00feetta er algj\u00f6r hornsteinn \u00ed myndlistarumr\u00e6\u00f0u og \u00ed rauninni sprettur fl\u00faxusinn og happeningi\u00f0 og allt \u00feetta upp \u00far \u00feessu eina verki. \u00deannig hafa m\u00f6rg t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld \u00e1 endanum or\u00f0i\u00f0 myndlistarmenn og enda\u00f0 me\u00f0 a\u00f0 s\u00fdna hlj\u00f3\u00f0verk \u00ed galler\u00edum \u00fev\u00ed t\u00f3nlsitarestablishmenti\u00f0 vill ekki fl\u00e6kja m\u00e1lin me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a eitthva\u00f0 sem ekki eru n\u00f3tur \u00e1 bla\u00f0i e\u00f0a mj\u00f6g skr\u00fdtnar n\u00f3tur e\u00f0a sl\u00edkt. Og ekki til d\u00e6mis t\u00f3nlist sem er l\u00e9leg til \u00feess a\u00f0 gera gr\u00edn a\u00f0 t\u00f3nlist \u00fe\u00f3 svo a\u00f0 \u00feetta s\u00e9 mikill hornsteinn \u00ed myndlist. \u00a0\u00dat af \u00feessum skorti \u00e1 fl\u00f3kinni samr\u00e6\u00f0u hefur hinn \u00feekkingarfr\u00e6\u00f0ilegi mi\u00f0ill venjulegar-n\u00f3tur-hef\u00f0bundin-hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri (h\u00e9r eftir vnhh) n\u00e1lgast s\u00ed\u00f0ustu stoppist\u00f6\u00f0 (kem betur inn \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00ed\u00f0ar).<\/p>\n<p>M\u00f3dern\u00edsku t\u00f3nlistarestablishmentin hafa miki\u00f0 skilgreint sig \u00fatfr\u00e1 and\u00f3fi. Notast vi\u00f0 Adorno og s\u00ed\u00f0-marx\u00edskar kennisetningar og hefur \u00fea\u00f0 veri\u00f0 nota\u00f0 til halds og trausts \u00ed sj\u00e1lfsr\u00e9ttl\u00e6tingum \u00ed \u00e1ratugara\u00f0ir. Me\u00f0 and\u00f3fi s\u00ednu hafa \u00feau me\u00f0 t\u00ed\u00f0 og t\u00edma ekki skapa\u00f0 frj\u00f3saman jar\u00f0veg fyrir n\u00fdjungar heldur jar\u00f0veg gremju og biturleika og kreddu sem stj\u00f3rnast mest af \u00fev\u00ed sem \u00fea\u00f0 er \u00ed and\u00f3fi vi\u00f0, s.s.: \u201evi\u00f0 gerum ekki \u00fea\u00f0 sem hinir gera.\u201c \u00deegar and\u00f3fsli\u00f0i\u00f0 er or\u00f0i\u00f0 a\u00f0 valdast\u00e9tt er \u00fea\u00f0 sama \u00fear og annars sta\u00f0ar \u00fear sem sl\u00edkt gerist, biturleikinn og gremjan fer ekki, menn halda bara \u00e1fram \u00ed v\u00f6rn og and\u00f3fi a\u00f0 vi\u00f0halda kreddunni, sem mest \u00f3breyttri og ekki \u00ed neinni samr\u00e6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 a\u00f0ra a\u00f0ila, heldur bara \u00fe\u00e1 sem eru samm\u00e1la, til frekari sta\u00f0festingar \u00e1 kreddunni. \u00deetta er eitthva\u00f0 sem hefur bara \u00e1gerst me\u00f0 t\u00ed\u00f0 og t\u00edma. \u00deannig a\u00f0 \u00fer\u00f6ngi stakkurinn er sni\u00f0inn af t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldunum sj\u00e1lfum fyrir tilstilli and\u00f3fs sem gerir ekkert anna\u00f0 en a\u00f0 sta\u00f0festa betur tilvistina \u00fatfr\u00e1 andst\u00e6\u00f0ingnum (tilvistin er \u00fatfr\u00e1 og undir andst\u00e6\u00f0ingnum komin, hvort sem hann er fort\u00ed\u00f0inn, klass\u00edk \u00ed n\u00faspilun, poppt\u00f3nlist&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Ef vi\u00f0 l\u00edtum \u00e1 ofurhetjur og stj\u00f6rnur n\u00fat\u00edmat\u00f3nlistar upp \u00far mi\u00f0ri 20.\u00f6ld einkum t.d. Cage og Stockhausen \u00fe\u00e1 voru \u00feeir miki\u00f0 \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 spyrja mj\u00f6g \u00e1leitinna spurninga um hva\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld er og hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 gerir, n\u00fana \u00e1 \u00feessum t\u00edmum (sem var n\u00fana \u00fe\u00e1). \u00deetta kemur fram \u00ed tilraunum \u00ed n\u00f3tnaskrift, tilraunum til a\u00f0 sleppa n\u00f3tnaskrift, tilraunum me\u00f0 n\u00fd hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri, f\u00edn og \u00f3f\u00edn, raft\u00f3nlist, h\u00e1lfraft\u00f3nlist, tilraunir me\u00f0 uppt\u00f6kur og uppt\u00f6kut\u00e6kni, tilraunir \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 fylgja verkinu misjafnlega langt \u00ed sk\u00f6punarferlinu, hva\u00f0 er n\u00f3tnaskrift, hva\u00f0 er hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri, hva\u00f0 er t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld. Miklar tilraunir me\u00f0 vnhh og spurningarmerki sett vi\u00f0 vnhh. \u00c1 8.\u00e1ratugnum duttu flestar svona tilraunir inn \u00ed h\u00fd\u00f0i\u00f0 og lifa kannski bara \u00ed eil\u00edfum grasr\u00f3tum sem einnig skortir samr\u00e6\u00f0u og vi\u00f0heldur l\u00edka sinni eigin kreddu. St\u00e6rstu establishmentin vir\u00f0ast halda hva\u00f0 fastast \u00ed a\u00f0 mi\u00f0a allt vi\u00f0 og sj\u00e1 allt \u00ed gegnum vnhh og lei\u00f0a hj\u00e1 s\u00e9r verk sem spur\u00f0u of \u00e1leitinna spurninga um \u00feetta. \u00c1 sama h\u00e1tt sni\u00f0ganga n\u00e6stu kynsl\u00f3\u00f0ir til d\u00e6mis m\u00f6guleika uppt\u00f6kut\u00e6kninnar til a\u00f0 marka sk\u00fdr m\u00f6rk milli s\u00edn og andst\u00e6\u00f0ingsins og pl\u00f6tu\u00fatg\u00e1fur ver\u00f0a eins og leikrit \u00e1 myndbandi sem nota kannski a\u00f0eins klippit\u00e6kni til \u00feess a\u00f0 f\u00e1 verkin r\u00e9tt.<br \/>\nM\u00e9r finnst \u00ed raun vnhh vera mj\u00f6g samb\u00e6rilegt vi\u00f0 m\u00e1lverki\u00f0. Allar helstu n\u00fdjungar innan vnhh \u00e1 s\u00ed\u00f0ustu \u00e1ratugum eru tilkomnar vegna inp\u00fats fr\u00e1 \u00f6\u00f0rum mi\u00f0lum (s.s. hlj\u00f3\u00f0r\u00f3fsgreining, algr\u00edmi, segulbandal\u00fappur, t\u00f3nlist \u00far \u00f3hlj\u00f3\u00f0um = segulb\u00f6nd, t\u00f6lvur, rafhlj\u00f3\u00f0gjafar&#8230;) en \u00feetta er alltaf \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed formi a\u00f0 f\u00e6ra uppl\u00fdsingar innan \u00ed vnhh ekki \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 vnhh eigi beinl\u00ednis \u00ed samr\u00e6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0 samb\u00e6rilegt (raft\u00f3nlist ver\u00f0ur aldrei alveg samb\u00e6rileg). Ef vi\u00f0 sko\u00f0um m\u00f3dernisma \u00ed myndlist og leiklist er miklu meira spurt spurninga um mi\u00f0la me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 bera saman, t.d. vi\u00f0 a\u00f0ra menningarheima. \u00cd t\u00f3nlist hefur sl\u00edkt a\u00f0allega gerst me\u00f0 yfirbor\u00f0slegum st\u00edlv\u00edsunum frekar en \u00e1leitnum samanbur\u00f0i \u00e1 e\u00f0li mi\u00f0la. M\u00e1lverki\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00ed samr\u00e6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 n\u00fdja og gamla mi\u00f0la, l\u00edka og \u00f3l\u00edka, lj\u00f3smyndir, v\u00eddj\u00f3, sk\u00falpt\u00far, vatnsliti, innsetningar osfrv. Til er kredduli\u00f0 \u00ed m\u00e1lverkageiranum en \u00fea\u00f0 hefur ekki yfirh\u00f6ndina \u00ed myndlistargeiranum \u00fev\u00ed ef svo v\u00e6ri, v\u00e6ri myndlist bara h\u00f6nnun e\u00f0a handverk. M\u00e1lverki\u00f0 er ekki dautt a\u00f0 m\u00ednu mati af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er \u00ed s\u00edfelldri samr\u00e6\u00f0u og samanbur\u00f0i vi\u00f0 samb\u00e6rilega n\u00fdja og gamla mi\u00f0la, \u00feeir m\u00e1larar sem eru sterkastir eru ekki \u00ed v\u00f6rn gagnvart \u00fev\u00ed. Flestar uppl\u00fdsingar sem hafa veri\u00f0 \u00ed gangi \u00ed vnhh eru hins vegar komnar n\u00e1l\u00e6gt s\u00ed\u00f0ustu stoppist\u00f6\u00f0 og leita langt yfir skammt, r\u00edghalda \u00ed gamalt forrit \u00fe\u00f3 svo a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9u einfaldari lei\u00f0ir til a\u00f0 gera svipa\u00f0a hluti. N\u00f3tasj\u00f3n er or\u00f0in svo fl\u00f3kin a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er or\u00f0in abstraksj\u00f3n af raunveruleikanum, hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rin ver\u00f0a a\u00f0 framkalla fullt af hlj\u00f3\u00f0um og t\u00f3num sem mi\u00f0illinn er ekki ger\u00f0ur fyrir (\u00feeas, mi\u00f0ill=hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rin og menntun og bakgrunnur hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6raleikaranna). Menn n\u00e1lgast yfirt\u00f3nar\u00f6\u00f0 me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 skipta \u00e1ttundinni \u00ed 48 jafna parta, menn nota \u00f3sk\u00fdr vi\u00f0b\u00f3tart\u00e1kn til \u00feess a\u00f0 t\u00e1kna a\u00f0 spila \u00e1 hvern kr\u00f3k og kima \u00e1 hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6rinu. N\u00fdjungarnar eru alltaf \u00e1legg ofan \u00e1 hi\u00f0 gamla, \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 henda neinu. Spektralismi, aukahlj\u00f3\u00f0ahyggja, n\u00fdfl\u00e6kja og einnig red\u00faksj\u00f3nismi eru allt sta\u00f0festingar \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 mi\u00f0illinn er \u00e1 \u00feekkingarfr\u00e6\u00f0ilegri endast\u00f6\u00f0.<\/p>\n<p>\u00deess vegna er \u00e9g alfari\u00f0 h\u00e6ttur a\u00f0 nota vn \u00fe\u00f3 \u00e9g s\u00e9 ekki alveg h\u00e6ttur a\u00f0 nota hh en byrja\u00f0ur a\u00f0 pr\u00f3fa og \u00fereifa mig eitthva\u00f0 anna\u00f0. Vnhh sinnar gera gr\u00edn en alternat\u00edv vi\u00f0 vnhh er \u00fea\u00f0 besta sem getur komi\u00f0 fyrir vnhh sinna (\u00faps, d\u00edk\u00f3t\u00f3m\u00eda og and\u00f3f m\u00f3ts\u00f6gn). \u00c9g l\u00fdt \u00fev\u00ed \u00fer\u00e1tt fyrir allt, ekki \u00e1 a\u00f0 \u00e9g s\u00e9 \u00ed andst\u00f6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 einn n\u00e9 neinn. En ef \u00fea\u00f0 f\u00e6r ekki a\u00f0 taka \u00fe\u00e1tt \u00ed samr\u00e6\u00f0unni er ekkert a\u00f0 gr\u00e6\u00f0a \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed. \u00deannig er miki\u00f0 af tilraunkenndum papp\u00edrs n\u00f3tasj\u00f3num sem m\u00e9r finnst ekki hafa veri\u00f0 sko\u00f0a\u00f0ar sem skildi og hafa fengi\u00f0 \u00f3sanngjarna umfj\u00f6llun og vnhh hefur \u00fev\u00ed ekki gr\u00e6tt \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00fea\u00f0 g\u00e6ti af \u00feeim n\u00f3tasj\u00f3num og d\u00edal\u00f3gnum vi\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e6r.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/template\/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&amp;user=253744\">David Brynjar Franzson<\/a><\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Selected post\" src=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/images\/arrow.png\" alt=\"Selected post\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" \/> Jun 11, 2009; 2:08pm<script 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neinu. &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>H\u00e9rna er grundvallar vandam\u00e1l \u00ed r\u00f6ksemdaf\u00e6rslunni. Afhverju \u00fearf a\u00f0 henda einhverju? Eru allar hugmyndir sem h\u00e6gt er a\u00f0 tj\u00e1 me\u00f0 einfaldri n\u00f3tnasj\u00f3n \u00fear me\u00f0 b\u00fanar? Er eitthva\u00f0 sem segir a\u00f0 ekki s\u00e9 h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 notast vi\u00f0 gamla t\u00e6kni jafnt sem n\u00fdja. Myndlistarmenn nota freskut\u00e6kni og \u00edkonager\u00f0art\u00e6kni jafnhli\u00f0a collage e\u00f0a n\u00fdlegri t\u00f6lvuprenntun. \u00deetta hlj\u00f3mar eins og a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0mundur sj\u00e1lfur telji a\u00f0 t\u00f3nlistin lyggji \u00ed mi\u00f0linum (e\u00f0a frekar kannski t\u00e6kninni).<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g held a\u00f0 grundvallarmisskylningurinn h\u00e9r lyggi \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0mundur l\u00fdtur svo \u00e1 a\u00f0 spektralismi, red\u00fakt\u00ed\u00f3nismi og n\u00fdfl\u00e6kja s\u00e9u a\u00f0 b\u00e6ta vi\u00f0 ofan \u00e1 n\u00f3tasj\u00f3n me\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 tilgangi a\u00f0 \u00fer\u00f3a &#8220;hef\u00f0bundna&#8221; n\u00f3tnaskrift. \u00deetta er alrangt. Grunn n\u00f3tnaskriftin er notu\u00f0 til a\u00f0 koma \u00fev\u00ed til skiila sem h\u00e6gt er \u00e1 sem einfaldastann og flj\u00f3tlegastan h\u00e1tt. Margir myndlistarmenn nota texta \u00ed verkum s\u00ednum til a\u00f0 n\u00e1 fram vissum hughrifum. Til a\u00f0 byrta texta \u00fearf a\u00f0 nota stafi og stafager\u00f0ir. Sama gildir um hef\u00f0bundnar n\u00f3tur \u00e1 bla\u00f0i. M\u00f6rg red\u00fakt\u00ed\u00f3nista verk eru samin fyrir einn flutning og ekki \u00e6tlu\u00f0 til endurnotkunnar, samt eru n\u00f3tur nota\u00f0ar af\u00fev\u00ed \u00fe\u00e6r eru stundum einfaldlega flj\u00f3tlegasta lei\u00f0in til a\u00f0 koma uppl\u00fdsingum til skila. \u00c9g er hjartanlega samm\u00e1la \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 festast \u00ed einni ger\u00f0 n\u00f3tnaskriftar \u00ferengir hugmyndaramman, en \u00e9g s\u00e9 ekki a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 bundi\u00f0 vi\u00f0 n\u00f3tur \u00e1 bla\u00f0i frekar en nokku\u00f0 anna\u00f0 (og \u00e9g vill taka fram a\u00f0 \u00e9g hef sennielga samtals nota\u00f0 25 n\u00f3tur s\u00ed\u00f0ustu 3 \u00e1r svo \u00e9g er ekkert a\u00f0 m\u00e6la me\u00f0 n\u00f3tum). \u00c9g held aftur \u00e1 m\u00f3ti a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld ver\u00f0i a\u00f0 finna hva\u00f0a lei\u00f0 kemur hugmyndum \u00feeirra til skila, og ef \u00fea\u00f0 er me\u00f0 fimm l\u00ednum \u00e1 bla\u00f0i \u00fe\u00e1 er ekkert a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed nema \u00feegar hugmyndirnar eru l\u00e9legar. Pers\u00f3nulega \u00fe\u00e1 held \u00e9g a\u00f0 \u00e1l\u00edka h\u00e1 pr\u00f3senta verka s\u00e9u b\u00fain til \u00far vondum hugmyndum sama hva\u00f0a a\u00f0fer\u00f0 er notu\u00f0 til a\u00f0 koma uppl\u00fdsingum fr\u00e1 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi til flytjanda.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g \u00e6tla l\u00edka a\u00f0 hengja mig aftur \u00ed \u00feessa r\u00f6ksemdaf\u00e6rslu a\u00f0 &#8220;S.s. 4&#8217;33&#8221; er afgreitt me\u00f0 banal spurningum \u00ed t\u00f3nlist og fjalla\u00f0 um sem brandara \u00e1 me\u00f0an \u00feetta er algj\u00f6r hornsteinn \u00ed myndlistarumr\u00e6\u00f0u og \u00ed rauninni sprettur fl\u00faxusinn og happeningi\u00f0 og allt \u00feetta upp \u00far \u00feessu eina verki.&#8221; \u00deetta er kannski enn\u00fe\u00e1 satt \u00e1 \u00cdslandi, en er kennt sem grundvallar verk \u00ed flestum h\u00e1sk\u00f3lum \u00ed bandar\u00edkjunum, enginn brandari \u00fear. Harry Partch er l\u00edka kenndur og ekki sem neinn brandari heldur sem frumkv\u00f6\u00f0ull (og flest allt \u00fea\u00f0 sem m\u00e9r s\u00fdnist vera h\u00e9r lagt til sem n\u00fdtt var partch b\u00fana\u00f0 gera fyrir meira en 50 \u00e1rum s\u00ed\u00f0an). \u00c9g vi\u00f0urkenni a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er tendens til a\u00f0 afskrifa \u00feessa t\u00f3nlist \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed sem ma\u00f0ur kallar menningarel\u00edtunni en \u00fea\u00f0 er l\u00edka enginn okkar a\u00f0 vinna \u00ed \u00feeirri el\u00edtu. \u00dea\u00f0 er annar heimur. Arena-rokk klass\u00edkurinnar. 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At\u00f3nal m\u00fas\u00edk \u00fe\u00f3tti \u00f3\u00fe\u00e6gileg \u00ed byrjun en \u00feykir hvergi tilt\u00f6kum\u00e1l lengur, sum frumkv\u00e6\u00f0i eru sam\u00feykkt \u00ed s\u00f6gulegu tilliti en vir\u00f0ast samt a\u00f0 einhverju leyti en \u00f6gra einhverjum \u00fe\u00e6gindaramma, \u00fe\u00f3 svo enginn s\u00e9 \u00e1 m\u00f3ti \u00feeim. \u00c1 me\u00f0an \u00ed myndlist hefur \u00fe\u00e6gindaramminn gli\u00f0na\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00fdmsa vegu \u00e1 seinustu 50 \u00e1rum, s.s. &#8230; t.d. fl\u00faxusi\u00f0 var ekkert n\u00fdtt, allar hugmyndirnar h\u00f6f\u00f0u komi\u00f0 fram hj\u00e1 dadaistunum, \u00fe\u00e6r fengu bara brei\u00f0ari merkingu og \u00feessar p\u00e6lingar sigldu inn v\u00ed\u00f0ar og almennar. Fl\u00faxusinn kom kannski \u00e1kve\u00f0num eldri p\u00e6lingum innan \u00ed hj\u00f6r\u00f0ina og merg\u00f0inna og var\u00f0 \u00feannig a\u00f0 umr\u00e6\u00f0u sem skila\u00f0i s\u00e9r inn \u00ed alla listumfj\u00f6llun. Kannski er \u00e9g a\u00f0 taka provincial p\u00f3l \u00ed h\u00e6\u00f0ina og setja \u00cdsland \u00ed sta\u00f0inn fyrir n\u00fat\u00edmann erlendis. En alla vega a\u00f0 \u00fe\u00f3 einhverjir hlutir s\u00e9u sam\u00feykktir og r\u00e6ddir \u00fe\u00e1 er ekki \u00fear me\u00f0 sagt a\u00f0 kerfi\u00f0 hvetji til listsk\u00f6punnar sem \u00e1 \u00ed beinni samr\u00e6\u00f0u vi\u00f0 \u00feessar hugmyndir, \u00fear kemur, afsaki\u00f0, ekki m\u00f3t\u00fer\u00f3i inn \u00ed, heldur \u00fe\u00e6gindi. Alls sta\u00f0ar t\u00f3nlistarh\u00e1sk\u00f3lum eru til d\u00e6mis kennd mj\u00f6g \u00fdtarleg t\u00f3nafr\u00e6\u00f0i (frekar en hlj\u00f3\u00f0afr\u00e6\u00f0i) og ma\u00f0ur er l\u00e1tinn greina og fjalla mj\u00f6g alvarlega um \u00e1kve\u00f0na hluti, sem tilheyra \u00e1kve\u00f0num straumi og a\u00f0fer\u00f0arfr\u00e6\u00f0i sem h\u00e6gt er a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a innan \u00ed \u00feessum a\u00f0fer\u00f0um, einkum greiningara\u00f0fer\u00f0um og svo framvegis. Allt anna\u00f0 er afgreitt me\u00f0 banal spurningum sem eru skildar eftir \u00ed lausu lofti og eru ekki beinl\u00ednis innan \u00fe\u00e6gindarammans \u00fe\u00f3 svo \u00feetta s\u00e9 ekki vanvirt e\u00f0a liti\u00f0 fram hj\u00e1. Greinilegt er \u00e1 t\u00f3nlistarmenntuninni hva\u00f0 er alv\u00f6ru t\u00f3nlist og hva\u00f0 ekki. Au\u00f0vita\u00f0 er horft \u00e1 Dadaisma og fl\u00faxus og sagt \u00ed dag a\u00f0 sumt af \u00feessu var bara barnalegt en inn \u00e1 milli eru mj\u00f6g \u00e1leitnar spurningar sem g\u00e6tu breytt \u00f6llu samhengi lista og mannlegrar tilveru, einkum ef \u00fe\u00e6r eru settar \u00ed samhengi, opna\u00f0 fyrir g\u00e1ttir sem eru l\u00e6star. \u00de\u00e1 gildir \u00ed einu hvort hugmyndirnar sj\u00e1lfar s\u00e9u 50 \u00e1ra e\u00f0a ekki. DaVinci haf\u00f0i hugmyndir af flugv\u00e9lum \u00ed eldgamladaga. \u00dea\u00f0 \u00fe\u00fd\u00f0ir ekki a\u00f0 Wright br\u00e6\u00f0ur hafi veri\u00f0 \u00ed tilgangslausu missjoni me\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 b\u00faa til fyrstu flugv\u00e9larnar. \u00c9g finn fyrir \u00e1kve\u00f0inni verndunarstefnu innan \u00ed t\u00f3nlistarumr\u00e6\u00f0u, verndunarstefnu gagnvart handverki, kannski eru \u00fea\u00f0 bara m\u00ednir komplexar og ge\u00f0veiki og ef svo er bi\u00f0st \u00e9g lausnar, fri\u00f0\u00fe\u00e6gingar og fyrirgefningar.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>N\u00fa, hva\u00f0 var\u00f0ar a\u00f0 henda sumu skal \u00e9g \u00fatsk\u00fdra betur hva\u00f0 \u00e9g \u00e1 vi\u00f0. \u00de\u00e1 er \u00e9g ekki a\u00f0 tala um a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 \u00e1 a\u00f0 henda vnhh og enginn m\u00e1 nota \u00fea\u00f0 aftur. \u00dea\u00f0 er ekki \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00e9g \u00e1 vi\u00f0. \u00dea\u00f0 er kannski heimskulegt \u00ed umr\u00e6\u00f0ua\u00f0fer\u00f0 minni er a\u00f0 gagnr\u00fdna a\u00f0ra \u00e1 \u00feessum forsendum \u00ed sta\u00f0inn fyrir a\u00f0 gera bara \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00e9g vil gera og vera ekki \u00ed endalausri krossfer\u00f0 me\u00f0 a\u00f0 r\u00e9ttl\u00e6ta \u00fea\u00f0, en \u00e1 n\u00fd, afsaki\u00f0. M\u00e9r finnst bara fyndi\u00f0 \u00feegar \u00e9g horfi \u00e1 \u00e1kve\u00f0na n\u00fat\u00edmat\u00f3nlistar tendensa hva\u00f0 forriti\u00f0 sem veri\u00f0 er a\u00f0 nota er gamalt mi\u00f0a\u00f0 vi\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 sem er veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 gera. T\u00f6kum hva\u00f0a notkun sem er \u00e1 yfirt\u00f3nar\u00f6\u00f0inni e\u00f0a uppl\u00fdsingum \u00fear innan sem d\u00e6mi. \u00deetta er mj\u00f6g einfalt og frumspekilegt og n\u00e1tt\u00farulega byggt inn \u00ed alla t\u00f3ngjafa. Veri\u00f0 er a\u00f0 fara langa lei\u00f0 \u00ed gegnum torr\u00e6\u00f0ann sk\u00f3g af s\u00f6gu til \u00feess a\u00f0 n\u00e1lgast \u00e1 papp\u00edr og \u00ed klappakerfum \u00e1 rosalega strembinn h\u00e1tt, eitthva\u00f0 sem er mj\u00f6g einfalt og frumspekilegt, n\u00e6stum banalt \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed tilliti. \u00dea\u00f0 sn\u00fdst bara um \u00fe\u00e6gindi, \u00fea\u00f0 sn\u00fdst um \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er \u00fe\u00e6gilegra a\u00f0 breyta engu og hjakka bara \u00ed sama farinu og nota gamalt handverk frekar en a\u00f0 breyta t\u00e6kninni og vera kominn me\u00f0 verkf\u00e6ri sem fylgja n\u00fdrri \u00feekkingarfr\u00e6\u00f0i og eru skilvirk og einf\u00f6ld \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed samhengi. Gagnvart \u00feessu er mikil \u201e\u00feekkingarvarsla\u201c, \u00fea\u00f0 er, \u00feessi rau\u00f0i \u00fer\u00e1\u00f0ur er heilagur, hann lei\u00f0ir okkur aftur til 1500. Me\u00f0 t\u00f6lvum og interneti er \u00fdmislegt h\u00e6gt sem getur leyft manni a\u00f0 sleppa \u00fev\u00ed sem vi\u00f0 \u00feurfum ekki \u00e1 a\u00f0 halda.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g get bara tala\u00f0 \u00fatfr\u00e1 m\u00e9r. \u00c9g s\u00e6kji auglj\u00f3slega miki\u00f0 \u00ed brunn \u00fdmissar t\u00f3nlistar einkum fr\u00e1 s\u00ed\u00f0ustu hundra\u00f0 \u00e1rum. M\u00e9r finnst ekkert a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 nota 5 l\u00ednur og g-lykil og geri \u00fea\u00f0 stundum ef \u00fea\u00f0 stu\u00f0lar a\u00f0 l\u00e6si og sl\u00edku, ef \u00fea\u00f0 er ekkert sem \u00e9g er a\u00f0 breyta \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed svi\u00f0i hvort e\u00f0 er. Auglj\u00f3slega er \u00e9g b\u00fainn a\u00f0 henda ta og t\u00edt\u00ed. \u00c9g er l\u00edka b\u00fainn a\u00f0 henda hugmyndinni um abcd, ekki \u00fat \u00far s\u00f6gunni e\u00f0a m\u00ednum bakgrunni, e\u00f0a verkf\u00e6rum annarra heldur bara minni eigin t\u00f3nsk\u00f6pun. \u00c9g g\u00e6ti v\u00edsa\u00f0 \u00ed t\u00e1kn, einkum abcd \u00fat af hentugleika en \u00e9g er yfirleitt a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 n\u00e1lgast eitthva\u00f0 anna\u00f0 t\u00f3na- e\u00f0a hlj\u00f3\u00f0asamhengi. Langspili\u00f0 sem \u00e9g \u00e6tla a\u00f0 b\u00faa til og fara alfari\u00f0 a\u00f0 spila \u00e1 \u00ed sta\u00f0inn fyrir g\u00edtar mun hafa \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00e9g vil \u00e1n \u00feess a\u00f0 v\u00edsa fyrir sj\u00e1lfan mig \u00ed abcd. \u00dea\u00f0 mun b\u00faa yfir t\u00f3na og hlj\u00f3\u00f0ger\u00f0um sem henta m\u00e9r. Me\u00f0 \u00feessu b\u00fd \u00e9g til mi\u00f0il og \u00ed honum mun \u00f3hj\u00e1kv\u00e6milega b\u00faa eitthva\u00f0 af t\u00f3nlistinni, st\u00f3ru skilabo\u00f0 menningarinnar h\u00e9r og n\u00fa, ekki litlu skilabo\u00f0in sem eru meira sammannleg og t\u00edmalaus, e\u00f0a eitthva\u00f0. \u00deetta hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri g\u00e6ti spila\u00f0 \u00ed samhengi vi\u00f0 \u00f6nnur hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri g\u00f6mul og n\u00fd, og \u00fearf \u00fe\u00e1 a\u00f0 gera m\u00e1lami\u00f0lanir. Helst vil \u00e9g sm\u00ed\u00f0a mitt hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri me\u00f0 frekar litlum m\u00f6guleika \u00e1 m\u00e1lami\u00f0lunum \u00feannig a\u00f0 \u00f6nnur hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri \u00feurfi a\u00f0 laga sig a\u00f0 \u00feeirri \u00feekkingarfr\u00e6\u00f0i frekar en \u00f6fugt. \u00c9g g\u00e6ti veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 vinna me\u00f0 7 hlj\u00f3\u00f0 \u00ed verki og 4 af \u00feeim hafa sk\u00fdra t\u00f3nmi\u00f0ju. \u00de\u00e1 \u00fearf \u00e9g ekki heilt st\u00f3rt p\u00edan\u00f3 e\u00f0a g- og f-lykil til \u00feess a\u00f0 t\u00e1kna \u00fea\u00f0. \u00c9g get hent \u00f6llu sem myndi bara \u00fev\u00e6last fyrir m\u00e9r. \u00c9g \u00fearf ekki heilann flygil ef \u00e9g \u00fearf bara 7 n\u00f3tur og svo framvegis. Vestr\u00e6n hlj\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e6ri og n\u00f3tnaskrift eru ekki og voru aldrei esperanto en \u00fea\u00f0 er oft fjalla\u00f0 um \u00fea\u00f0 \u00feannig. \u00c9g vil sleppa hlutum sem \u00fev\u00e6last fyrir m\u00e9r, \u00ed eitt skipti er betra fyrir mig a\u00f0 vera me\u00f0 4 ni\u00f0ursu\u00f0u d\u00f3sir og 4 sk\u00e1lar og k\u00falur sem hreyfast \u00e1 skj\u00e1. M\u00e9r finnst mi\u00f0lar eins og klarinett og p\u00edan\u00f3 og ta og t\u00edt\u00ed og abcd vera a\u00f0 segja m\u00e9r a\u00f0 \u00e9g eigi a\u00f0 nota \u00fea\u00f0 rosalega miki\u00f0 og s\u00fdna hva\u00f0 \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed b\u00fdr og \u00fea\u00f0 ver\u00f0ur yfirleitt \u00f3hj\u00e1kv\u00e6milega raunin. P\u00edan\u00f3i\u00f0 tj\u00e1ir sj\u00e1lft sig yfirleitt \u00ed t\u00f3nlist fyrir p\u00edan\u00f3, \u00e9g get tali\u00f0 \u00e1 fingrum annarrar handar verk fyrir, e\u00f0a me\u00f0 p\u00edan\u00f3i sem m\u00e9r finnst ekki gera \u00fea\u00f0. \u00dev\u00ed held \u00e9g a\u00f0 svona takmarkanir hj\u00e1lpi m\u00e9r \u00ed a\u00f0 fl\u00e6kjast ekki \u00ed hlutum sem skipta ekki m\u00e1li og eru l\u00edklegir til a\u00f0 lei\u00f0a mig af brautinni \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 b\u00faa til r\u00e1s fyrir anna\u00f0 streymi af uppl\u00fdsingum.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9g hef oft kreddast \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 m\u00e9r finnist vnhh vera eins og eitt forritunarm\u00e1l og \u00fea\u00f0 hafi aldrei veri\u00f0 til anna\u00f0. Forrit og t\u00f6lvur hef\u00f0u aldrei \u00fer\u00f3ast eins miki\u00f0 og hratt og raun ber vitni ef \u00fea\u00f0 hef\u00f0u ekki veri\u00f0 m\u00f6rg forritunarm\u00e1l \u00ed gangi. Samr\u00e6\u00f0an milli \u00f3l\u00edkrar \u00feekkingarfr\u00e6\u00f0ilegrar n\u00e1lgunar ver\u00f0ur fyrir viki\u00f0 miklu r\u00edkulegri en s\u00edfelld kerfisbundin einr\u00e6\u00f0a \u00ed kerfi sem er obsolete (sj\u00e1 McLuhan t\u00falkun \u00e1 or\u00f0inu obsolete, s.s. ekki \u00f3noth\u00e6ft heldur n\u00fd t\u00e6kni hefur s\u00f6mu m\u00f6guleikana og fleiri \u00c1 YFIRBOR\u00d0INU). Ef ma\u00f0ur \u00e6tlar a\u00f0 b\u00faa til n\u00fdtt m\u00e1l (t.d. forritunarm\u00e1l) ver\u00f0ur ma\u00f0ur a\u00f0 byrja einfalt, annars er l\u00edklegt a\u00f0 ma\u00f0ur byggi \u00fea\u00f0 bara \u00e1 mj\u00f6g svipu\u00f0um grunni og \u00fev\u00ed sem ma\u00f0ur \u00feekkir fyrir. Ma\u00f0ur \u00fearf a\u00f0 bera saman \u00feau m\u00e1l sem eru til, sj\u00e1 hva\u00f0a eiginleika manni finnst \u00feau hafa og hva\u00f0 \u00feau g\u00e6ti hugsanlega vanta\u00f0 til \u00feess a\u00f0 gera eitthva\u00f0 sem \u00e9g hef \u00e1huga \u00e1 a\u00f0 gera. \u00de\u00e1 byrjar ma\u00f0ur fr\u00e1 grunni (me\u00f0 eldri \u00feekkingu \u00ed pokanum, vel a\u00f0 merkja) \u00ed a\u00f0 p\u00fasla saman litlum einingum og sj\u00e1 hvernig \u00fe\u00e6r heg\u00f0a s\u00e9r og gera kerfi\u00f0 sm\u00e1m saman fl\u00f3knar hr\u00e6ra h\u00e6gt og r\u00f3lega fleiri hr\u00e1efnum \u00ed s\u00fapuna og smakka alltaf \u00e1 milli. \u00c9g l\u00fdt svo \u00e1 a\u00f0 \u00feetta s\u00e9 m\u00edn n\u00e1lgun, \u00e9g \u00e6tla a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 k\u00faka ekki \u00e1 neinn sem gerir ekki sl\u00edkt hi\u00f0 sama. Fyrir mig pers\u00f3nulega er nau\u00f0synlegt a\u00f0 henda \u00e1kve\u00f0num hlutum e\u00f0a sni\u00f0ganga sem eru mj\u00f6g heimtufrekir \u00ed umhverfinu. \u00deannig eing\u00f6ngu get \u00e9g fengi\u00f0 sk\u00fdra s\u00fdn \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00e9g er a\u00f0 gera. \u00dea\u00f0 gildir \u00ed einu hvort einhver hafi einhvern t\u00edmann reynt eitthva\u00f0 samb\u00e6rilegt og hva\u00f0 ni\u00f0urst\u00f6\u00f0u s\u00e1 f\u00e9kk.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/template\/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&amp;user=tervel-3623359%7E%C3%9Er%C3%A1inn+Hj%C3%A1lmarsson\">\u00der\u00e1inn Hj\u00e1lmarsson<\/a><\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Selected post\" src=\"http:\/\/s-l-a-t-u-r.2169095.n2.nabble.com\/images\/arrow.png\" alt=\"Selected post\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" \/> Jun 11, 2009; 5:47pm<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ 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Sums\u00e9 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0 a\u00f0 m\u00ednu mati er ekki bundi\u00f0 vi\u00f0 \u00e1kve\u00f0inn mi\u00f0il en mi\u00f0illinn sem ver\u00f0ur fyrir valinu mun \u00f3hj\u00e1kv\u00e6milega r\u00e1\u00f0a meiru en t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0 getur nokkurn t\u00edmann gert s\u00e9r grein fyrir. Ef \u00e9g til d\u00e6mis gera eitthva\u00f0 sem ver\u00f0ur \u00feess valdandi a\u00f0 einhver vill meina a\u00f0 \u00e9g s\u00e9 ekki lengur t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld, \u00fe\u00e1 ver\u00f0 \u00e9g bara a\u00f0 taka \u00fev\u00ed. \u00c9g nefndi dada, fl\u00faxus og sl\u00edkt \u00fev\u00ed \u00fear var notast vi\u00f0 \u00fdmsa mi\u00f0la og hefur \u00fear af lei\u00f0andi lent \u00ed myndlistarkateg\u00f3r\u00edunni \u00feegar fari\u00f0 er \u00fat \u00ed umr\u00e6\u00f0ur. \u00dea\u00f0 er ekkert skr\u00fdti\u00f0 a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld geri raft\u00f3nverk. \u00dea\u00f0 ver\u00f0ur s\u00edfellt algengara a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld geri innsetningu e\u00f0a sl\u00edkt. \u00dea\u00f0 er s\u00edfelld \u00fer\u00f3un \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed hva\u00f0a mi\u00f0il t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ldi\u00f0 notar. \u00c9g held a\u00f0 mi\u00f0lar skipti \u00f6llu m\u00e1li, en ekki neinu m\u00e1li \u00ed sambandi vi\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 hvort ma\u00f0ur s\u00e9 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld e\u00f0a ekki \u00fev\u00ed \u00e9g l\u00fdt svo \u00e1 a\u00f0 t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld s\u00e9 s\u00e1 sem b\u00fdr til t\u00f3nlist sem er ger\u00f0 yfir langan t\u00edma \u00fe\u00f3 h\u00fan hlj\u00f3mi yfir stuttann, \u00fea\u00f0 er, pukrast er me\u00f0 uppl\u00fdsingarnar, og p\u00fasla\u00f0. \u00c9g tengi pers\u00f3nulega spuna vi\u00f0 t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0ar (sem \u00e9g veit a\u00f0 m\u00f6rgum finnst vafasamt). M\u00e9r finnst spuni vera lei\u00f0 til a\u00f0 pr\u00f3fa og \u00fer\u00f3a hugmyndir, en spuni er ekki t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0 og ver\u00f0ur aldrei t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0. H\u00e6gt er a\u00f0 b\u00faa til lag bara \u00ed spuna, en \u00fea\u00f0 er ekki endilega t\u00f3nsm\u00ed\u00f0 fyrir m\u00e9r nema t\u00f3nsmi\u00f0urinn hafi eitt gr\u00ed\u00f0arlegum t\u00edma \u00ed a\u00f0 hanna einingarnar sem hann p\u00faslar saman \u00ed augnablikinu (Schubert, Mozart, Scelsi, Feldman eru d\u00e6mi um t\u00f3nsk\u00e1ld sem vir\u00f0ast oft \u00e1 t\u00ed\u00f0um hafa sami\u00f0 d\u00e1ldi\u00f0 beint en eiga \u00fea\u00f0 sameiginlegt a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er mikill \u00feekkingar og forbyggingarbrunnur bakvi\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00feeir gera).<\/p>\n<p>Var\u00f0andi \u00feetta me\u00f0 ni\u00f0urrif. \u00deetta hefur veri\u00f0 m\u00e9r mj\u00f6g hugleiki\u00f0 og \u00e9g g\u00e6ti blogga\u00f0 um \u00feetta og fyllt \u00ferj\u00e1t\u00edu s\u00ed\u00f0ur me\u00f0 millj\u00f3n \u00f3bakkanlegum yfirl\u00fdsingum \u00e1 korteri. Eftir Hardt og Negri komm\u00fanistafyrirlesturinn og \u00fdmissi umr\u00e6\u00f0u um m\u00e1lefni sem tengist and\u00f3fi hef \u00e9g fengi\u00f0 sm\u00e1 \u00f3ge\u00f0, \u00e1 sama t\u00edma hef \u00e9g fengi\u00f0 \u00f3ge\u00f0 \u00e1 John Lennonismanum sem hefur t\u00ed\u00f0kast \u00e1 m\u00f3tm\u00e6lafundum og sl\u00edkt, \u00feannig a\u00f0 \u00e9g hef veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 velta \u00fdmsu fyrir m\u00e9r var\u00f0andi hry\u00f0juverk og ey\u00f0ileggingarstarfsemi versus pasifisma, a\u00f0ger\u00f0arleysi og a\u00f0ger\u00f0arsinnun og sl\u00edkt. Ekki af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00e9g hef \u00e1huga \u00e1 p\u00f3lit\u00edk e\u00f0a efnahagsm\u00e1lum heldur einmitt ekki. \u00c9g hef \u00e1huga \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed \u00ed samhengi vi\u00f0 breytingar og hvernig best er a\u00f0 fara a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 gera einhverjar breytingar. Ni\u00f0urrif tengist \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 r\u00edfa eitthva\u00f0 ni\u00f0ur sem \u00feegar er til. \u00de\u00e1 er ma\u00f0ur auglj\u00f3slega a\u00f0 einbeita s\u00e9r a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed en ekki einhverju \u00f6\u00f0ru. \u00de\u00e1 er ma\u00f0ur \u00f3hj\u00e1kv\u00e6milega a\u00f0 st\u00edga upp \u00e1 sama svi\u00f0, fullur af sj\u00e1lfsr\u00e9ttl\u00e6tingu a\u00f0 benda \u00e1 hva\u00f0 eitthva\u00f0 anna\u00f0 er vont og gagnslaust til \u00feess a\u00f0 finna hva\u00f0 ma\u00f0ur er g\u00f3\u00f0ur. \u00dea\u00f0 sem meira er a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 sem ma\u00f0ur er \u00e1 m\u00f3ti er \u00fea\u00f0 sem ma\u00f0ur elskar, \u00fea\u00f0 hittir \u00e1 vi\u00f0kv\u00e6mann blett, \u00fea\u00f0 hittir \u00e1 sta\u00f0i \u00fear sem eru miklar tilfinningar, a\u00f0eins tilviljun r\u00e6\u00f0ur \u00fev\u00ed hvorn p\u00f3linn ma\u00f0ur velur \u00feegar tveir eru, \u00e1st e\u00f0a hatur \u00e1 einhverju fyrirb\u00e6ri. Sem d\u00e6mi g\u00e1tum \u00e9g og Palli alltaf fengi\u00f0 f\u00f3lk sem sag\u00f0ist hata Stef\u00e1n Hilmarsson til \u00feess a\u00f0 vi\u00f0urkenna eftir tv\u00f6-\u00ferj\u00fa l\u00f6g a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 \u00ed rauninni elskar Stef\u00e1n Hilmarsson en ef f\u00f3lk virtist ekki hafa neinar sko\u00f0anir \u00e1 honum til a\u00f0 byrja me\u00f0 e\u00f0a bara svona f\u00ednn, \u00fe\u00e1 var ekkert h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 sn\u00faa \u00fev\u00ed af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 voru ekki miklar tilfinningar \u00fearna. \u00deess vegna finnst m\u00e9r komm\u00fanista umr\u00e6\u00f0an sem gengur meira \u00fat \u00e1 hva\u00f0 kap\u00edtalismi s\u00e9 vondur heldur en hva\u00f0 komm\u00fanismi er, a\u00f0 hlj\u00f3ta a\u00f0 vera drifinn \u00e1fram af gr\u00e6\u00f0gi \u00ed efnislega hluti \u00fev\u00ed \u00fea\u00f0 er \u00fea\u00f0 sem umr\u00e6\u00f0an sn\u00fdst um, ekki hugmyndir og sk\u00f6pun. Svo \u00e6tla\u00f0i \u00e9g a\u00f0 fara \u00ed and\u00f3f vi\u00f0 and\u00f3fi\u00f0 en fatta\u00f0i a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 er bara noise og tilgangslaust og m\u00f3tsagnakennt. \u00dear koma n\u00fdju tannhj\u00f3lin inn. Ef ma\u00f0ur gerir byltingu er ma\u00f0ur a\u00f0 sam\u00feykkja \u00feann valdastr\u00faktur sem er, bara taka vi\u00f0 honum og breyta honum. Gj\u00f6rey\u00f0ilegging hl\u00fdtur a\u00f0 fela \u00ed s\u00e9r a\u00f0 b\u00faa til eitthva\u00f0 sem gerir anna\u00f0 \u00f3nau\u00f0synlegt. Til d\u00e6mis ef einhverjir kommar myndu b\u00faa til v\u00f6urskiptakerfi s\u00edn \u00e1 milli og h\u00e6tta a\u00f0 vinna og borga skatt og nota peninga, og \u00feetta yr\u00f0i vins\u00e6lt, myndi \u00fea\u00f0 hafa miklu meiri ey\u00f0ileggingarkraft en nokkur bylting s\u00f6gunnar, \u00fev\u00ed inn \u00ed \u00fev\u00ed f\u00e6list a\u00f0 breyta sj\u00e1lfum s\u00e9r \u00far gamla vi\u00f0horfinu, og b\u00faa h\u00e6gt og r\u00f3lega til a\u00f0ra menningu. \u00deannig held \u00e9g a\u00f0 ef fem\u00ednistar myndu b\u00faa til n\u00fdtt tungum\u00e1l s\u00edn \u00e1 milli og byrja a\u00f0 tala \u00fea\u00f0 og b\u00faa til n\u00fdja menningu, fyrst \u00e1 sm\u00e1um skala, \u00fe\u00e1 g\u00e6ti s\u00fa menning ef h\u00fan gengur vel grafi\u00f0 alfari\u00f0 undan ind\u00f3-evr\u00f3pskri menningu sem hefur alltaf veri\u00f0 karld\u00f3mineru\u00f0 og st\u00e6rstu einst\u00f6ku menningarsamf\u00e9l\u00f6gin hafa notast vi\u00f0 \u00fer\u00e6lahald og imperialisma. \u00dear er eitthva\u00f0 sem er byggt inn \u00ed tungum\u00e1li\u00f0 sem er ekki h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 komast fram hj\u00e1, s\u00e9rstaklega ekki ef ma\u00f0ur heldur \u00e1fram a\u00f0 \u00fer\u00e6ta \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed tungum\u00e1li. Ekki \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9 tilgangur en \u00e9g held af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 t\u00f3nlist er eldri en tungum\u00e1l hugsanlega, og sammannleg og jafnvel til hj\u00e1 d\u00fdrum og forverum mannanna, \u00fe\u00e1 geti dj\u00fapar breytingar \u00e1 t\u00f3nlist haft \u00e1hrif \u00e1 tungum\u00e1l sem hefur \u00feannig \u00e1hrif \u00e1 alla menningu, \u00fe\u00f3 oft virkar \u00fea\u00f0 \u00f6fugt. 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